1 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:08,790 if if only i was important enough to 2 00:00:12,230 --> 00:00:11,040 warrant that that's great thank you 3 00:00:15,110 --> 00:00:12,240 thank you 4 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:15,120 well welcome to fame lab talking 5 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:17,520 astrobiology with nasa thank you all for 6 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:18,560 coming 7 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:20,160 for those of you for the few people in 8 00:00:25,990 --> 00:00:21,920 the room that don't know who i am i'm dr 9 00:00:27,509 --> 00:00:26,000 mary wojtek what's my name uh voytech um 10 00:00:29,349 --> 00:00:27,519 and i didn't even get to have any of the 11 00:00:31,269 --> 00:00:29,359 refreshments 12 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:31,279 i'm the head of the astrobiology program 13 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:33,600 at nasa astrobiology as you know is the 14 00:00:37,030 --> 00:00:35,360 study of the origin and evolution of 15 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:37,040 life on this planet in order to 16 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:38,559 understand where we might find it 17 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:40,399 elsewhere in the universe 18 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:42,559 now tonight you are going to see 11 19 00:00:48,630 --> 00:00:45,280 finalists that have competed 20 00:00:50,709 --> 00:00:48,640 with over 60 other scientists 21 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:50,719 in a number of competitions held around 22 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:52,879 the country one in houston one in denver 23 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:55,440 washington dc and even a competition on 24 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:58,559 online and these are the 11 finalists 25 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:00,480 these talented scientists have drawn 26 00:01:04,469 --> 00:01:02,879 from their own experiences as well as 27 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:04,479 some training that we provided to them 28 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:06,720 as part of this competition and what are 29 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:08,080 they going to do they're going to take 30 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:10,320 three minutes only 31 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:11,680 to describe a 32 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:13,760 scientific concept in astrobiology 33 00:01:16,950 --> 00:01:15,520 planetary scientists or something more 34 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:16,960 general 35 00:01:21,109 --> 00:01:19,360 uh without using any slides a task that 36 00:01:23,429 --> 00:01:21,119 is indeed difficult for any scientists 37 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,439 i've ever met using only the props that 38 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,119 they can carry up onto the stage with 39 00:01:28,870 --> 00:01:26,799 them here 40 00:01:30,630 --> 00:01:28,880 what has brought us here tonight 41 00:01:32,390 --> 00:01:30,640 is nasa's commitment as well as the 42 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:32,400 commitment of the scientists in this 43 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:33,520 room 44 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:34,400 to 45 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:37,840 uh public enlightenment that is 46 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:41,119 fostering science literacy communicating 47 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:43,040 our science and our enthusiasm for the 48 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,600 science that we do because we cr we 49 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:47,360 appreciate the support of the american 50 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:49,360 public as well as the resources we get 51 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:52,000 from the american taxpayer 52 00:01:56,709 --> 00:01:54,640 no one understood this better and and 53 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:56,719 rose to the challenge as well as carl 54 00:01:59,670 --> 00:01:57,840 sagan 55 00:02:02,230 --> 00:01:59,680 some consider him the greatest science 56 00:02:05,190 --> 00:02:02,240 communicator in the 20th century 57 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:05,200 he left a legacy that inspired many 58 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:06,320 uh a 59 00:02:10,070 --> 00:02:08,479 youth and individual to go on into 60 00:02:11,750 --> 00:02:10,080 science careers 61 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:11,760 and i had the opportunity to share with 62 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:13,520 you this evening a recording from his 63 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:14,640 sister 64 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:16,400 carrie sagan green 65 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:18,879 who we were delighted to see joined us 66 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:21,360 in houston for our competition 67 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:23,680 and asked to address our contestants so 68 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:25,599 we have a recorded message message from 69 00:02:31,509 --> 00:02:29,120 her that you'll hear now thank you hello 70 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:31,519 i am delighted that you are here looking 71 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:33,760 forward to hearing the contestants 72 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,400 participating in the u.s science 73 00:02:42,390 --> 00:02:40,000 communication competition finals 74 00:02:44,309 --> 00:02:42,400 the need to explore sits deep within the 75 00:02:46,790 --> 00:02:44,319 human psyche 76 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,800 men and women exploring space is 77 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:48,000 expensive 78 00:02:52,390 --> 00:02:49,920 but the technological benefits and 79 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:52,400 practical advances for us who are 80 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:55,040 earthbound would be many as we have 81 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:56,560 already seen 82 00:03:02,630 --> 00:02:59,440 and sharing costs with other nations is 83 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:02,640 certainly going in the right direction 84 00:03:08,869 --> 00:03:05,680 recently stephen hawking celebrated his 85 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:08,879 70th birthday and commented 86 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:11,120 i don't think we will survive another 87 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,319 thousand years without escaping beyond 88 00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:16,879 our fragile planet 89 00:03:20,869 --> 00:03:18,879 i'd like to give you two quotes from my 90 00:03:23,270 --> 00:03:20,879 brother carl sagan 91 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:23,280 the first one i have as a bumper sticker 92 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:25,840 on my car 93 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:28,400 it is far better to grasp the universe 94 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:31,120 as it really is than to persist in 95 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:33,920 delusion however satisfying and 96 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:36,400 reassuring 97 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:39,840 so i implore you to do sound science and 98 00:03:45,990 --> 00:03:42,879 not be afraid to give up pet theories if 99 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:46,000 the evidence is elsewhere 100 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:48,959 my second quote from carl is this 101 00:03:54,789 --> 00:03:51,920 if we manage to avoid self-destruction 102 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:54,799 so that there are future historians our 103 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:57,599 time will be remembered in part because 104 00:04:01,350 --> 00:03:59,920 this was when we first set sail for 105 00:04:02,789 --> 00:04:01,360 other worlds 106 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:02,799 in the long run 107 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:05,519 as we straighten things out down here 108 00:04:10,869 --> 00:04:08,159 there will be more of us up there 109 00:04:13,589 --> 00:04:10,879 there will be robot emissaries and human 110 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:13,599 outposts throughout the solar system 111 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:18,239 we will become a multi-planet species 112 00:04:22,469 --> 00:04:20,479 i believe that eventually we will be 113 00:04:24,469 --> 00:04:22,479 well off planet 114 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:24,479 now is the time to increase this 115 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,520 investment in our species future 116 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:29,600 regardless if you win this competition 117 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:30,720 or not 118 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:33,040 always be advocates for science in 119 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:35,440 general and space exploration in 120 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:38,400 particular and clearly communicate your 121 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:41,120 passion to people everywhere 122 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:54,710 so now i would like to acknowledge our 123 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:56,320 partners the cheltenham science 124 00:04:59,670 --> 00:04:57,840 festivals and 125 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:59,680 the blue marble space institute for 126 00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:01,120 science and i'd like to take the 127 00:05:04,469 --> 00:05:03,520 opportunity to introduce two individuals 128 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:04,479 to you 129 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:06,320 for which if they had not helped me out 130 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:08,240 with this idea this would have never 131 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:09,520 happened 132 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:11,600 shawn domigal goldman 133 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:28,790 i i just want to take a moment here to 134 00:05:31,830 --> 00:05:30,240 talk about the community of 135 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:31,840 communicators that we've been building 136 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:33,280 through the family of astrobiology 137 00:05:37,830 --> 00:05:34,400 events 138 00:05:39,430 --> 00:05:37,840 this is absycon a scientific conference 139 00:05:41,350 --> 00:05:39,440 is public communications events so 140 00:05:42,950 --> 00:05:41,360 there's a lot of big brains in the room 141 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:42,960 but the contestants not just the 142 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:44,320 finalists you'll see here today but 143 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:45,680 people that have been participating 144 00:05:49,110 --> 00:05:47,600 throughout all our preliminaries 145 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:49,120 they've done something very brave 146 00:05:52,629 --> 00:05:50,960 they've gotten up on stage and shared 147 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:52,639 their life's work with the public and 148 00:05:56,309 --> 00:05:54,479 that takes guts and they've done so 149 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:56,319 effectively they've identified with 150 00:06:00,070 --> 00:05:58,000 other human beings with different 151 00:06:01,510 --> 00:06:00,080 backgrounds and levels of experience and 152 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:01,520 the capability to do that also takes 153 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:03,759 heart and i don't speak for just myself 154 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:05,360 or even just mary and danielle when i 155 00:06:09,110 --> 00:06:06,639 say that the people that have seen you 156 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:09,120 do that have been inspired by the 157 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:12,160 wonderment and the sense of of of being 158 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:13,520 that we get when looking at the universe 159 00:06:16,629 --> 00:06:14,800 and studying it 160 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:16,639 and on a personal level and your 161 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:18,080 attempts to be like one of our mutual 162 00:06:21,990 --> 00:06:20,479 idols carl sagan you've made me feel 163 00:06:23,830 --> 00:06:22,000 like another mutual idol of ours and 164 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:23,840 that's kermit the frog 165 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:25,120 because 166 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:27,199 we we we got this stage you procured a 167 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:29,199 stage and i twisted some of your arms 168 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,440 and dragged you up onto it but then we 169 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:33,440 got to sit down and we got to watch you 170 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:35,440 own the stage and that was very special 171 00:06:39,510 --> 00:06:37,840 to us so i want you all to stand the 11 172 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:39,520 finalists but also all of the people 173 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:40,960 that have participated in any of our 174 00:06:58,870 --> 00:06:43,360 denver stand up come on stand up stand 175 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:00,830 thank you all i really mean 176 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:04,000 it all right thank you sean all right 177 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:05,919 now as i think everyone in this room 178 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:08,960 knows the nasa astrobiology program has 179 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:11,759 always valued and always prioritized 180 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:13,199 training the next generation of 181 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,360 astrobiologists 182 00:07:19,029 --> 00:07:17,360 mary and sean and i have spent a lot of 183 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:19,039 quality time with some of those young 184 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:21,280 scientists over the last few months 185 00:07:23,589 --> 00:07:22,160 and 186 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:23,599 we're here to tell you that that 187 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:26,479 investment has paid off 188 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:28,479 we'd like to take this opportunity to 189 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:31,199 say thank you to the senior scientists 190 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:34,240 advisors and mentors in the room 191 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:38,080 your commitment to them is evident 192 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:40,000 as you'll see in a moment the support 193 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:42,400 and guidance you give them every day day 194 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:50,230 is reflected in their incredible talent 195 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:52,479 their boundless energy 196 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:54,240 and their unwavering commitment to 197 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:56,160 astrobiology 198 00:08:08,230 --> 00:07:58,800 so thank you again and keep up the good 199 00:08:12,309 --> 00:08:10,629 okay we're going to get started without 200 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,319 further ado i'm just going to take one 201 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:14,400 moment now to remind everyone go ahead 202 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:17,680 and silence your cell phones please 203 00:08:20,629 --> 00:08:19,440 okay i'm going to begin by introducing 204 00:08:22,469 --> 00:08:20,639 the judges 205 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:22,479 they have made a huge contribution to 206 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:24,400 this effort over the last few months and 207 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,680 we're thrilled to have you here again 208 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:27,680 with us so 209 00:08:31,830 --> 00:08:29,759 david grinspoon 210 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:31,840 is curator of astrobiology at the denver 211 00:08:36,149 --> 00:08:33,680 museum of nature and science and adjunct 212 00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:36,159 professor of astrophysical and planetary 213 00:08:41,029 --> 00:08:38,399 science at the university of colorado 214 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:41,039 as you know he will soon occupy the 215 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:44,080 newly established baruch s blumberg nasa 216 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:45,680 library of congress chair and 217 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:47,760 astrobiology 218 00:08:51,910 --> 00:08:50,080 david was awarded the 2006 carl sagan 219 00:08:53,829 --> 00:08:51,920 medal for public communication of 220 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:53,839 planetary science by the american 221 00:09:07,110 --> 00:08:55,440 astronomical society please welcome 222 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:09,509 all right linda billings 223 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:11,760 linda billings is a research professor 224 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:13,360 at the george washington university 225 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:14,959 school of media and public affairs in 226 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,720 washington d.c 227 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:18,480 she does communication research for 228 00:09:23,350 --> 00:09:21,040 nasa's astrobiology program in science 229 00:09:25,269 --> 00:09:23,360 mission directorate 230 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:25,279 she has advised nasa's lead scientist 231 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:27,040 for mars exploration and nasa's 232 00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:28,720 planetary protection officer on 233 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:30,320 communications 234 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:32,320 her research focused on the focuses on 235 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:33,760 the rhetoric of science and space 236 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,000 exploration and the social construction 237 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:38,240 of scientific authority 238 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:52,230 bill margle has worked for the last 23 239 00:09:55,269 --> 00:09:53,600 years in many positions in the 240 00:09:58,150 --> 00:09:55,279 television industry 241 00:09:59,190 --> 00:09:58,160 as writer producer editor developer and 242 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:59,200 executive 243 00:10:02,470 --> 00:10:01,279 bill has worked at the sci-fi channel 244 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:02,480 tnt 245 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:05,680 the travel channel and discovery studios 246 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:08,720 in 2008 bill joined national geographic 247 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:10,160 and is currently vice president of 248 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:12,480 national geographic television 249 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:14,640 bill has a love of science and adventure 250 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:16,079 and in spite of the fact that he would 251 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,079 most certainly lose his lunch and his in 252 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:20,480 his helmet still dreams of being an 253 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:32,870 and i think the moment many of you have 254 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:34,800 been waiting for 255 00:10:39,750 --> 00:10:37,519 we have invited a very special guest to 256 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:39,760 host tonight's event 257 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:41,920 it seems only appropriate that the chief 258 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:44,560 communications officer of the starship 259 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:46,959 enterprise should be part of the 260 00:11:02,069 --> 00:10:49,360 inaugural fame lab astrobiology 261 00:11:05,829 --> 00:11:03,990 so here tonight with us is ms michelle 262 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:05,839 nichols 263 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:09,360 roddenberry to create chief 264 00:11:14,069 --> 00:11:12,640 communications officer lieutenant uhura 265 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:14,079 fourth in command of the starship 266 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,720 enterprise in his legendary tv series 267 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:18,000 star trek 268 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:20,160 in the words of dr martin luther king it 269 00:11:25,190 --> 00:11:23,279 became quote the first non-stereotypical 270 00:11:27,509 --> 00:11:25,200 role portrayed by a black woman in 271 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:27,519 television history 272 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:29,920 in 1992 she became the first 273 00:11:34,630 --> 00:11:32,000 african-american to place her handprints 274 00:11:36,870 --> 00:11:34,640 and signature in the cement walk at the 275 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:36,880 famous man's chinese theater along with 276 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,360 her other command crew members of the 277 00:11:42,790 --> 00:11:41,120 starship enterprise 278 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:42,800 they were also honored in a special 279 00:11:47,269 --> 00:11:44,800 exhibit at the smithsonian's national 280 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,279 air and space museum in washington dc 281 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:49,440 an unprecedented accolade for the 282 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:54,629 ms nichols public service activities 283 00:11:59,110 --> 00:11:56,880 have been equally outstanding 284 00:12:01,190 --> 00:11:59,120 working with nasa in the late 70s she 285 00:12:02,790 --> 00:12:01,200 successfully recruited the first women 286 00:12:04,710 --> 00:12:02,800 and minority astronauts for the space 287 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:04,720 shuttle program for which she received 288 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:06,560 nasa's distinguished published public 289 00:12:09,829 --> 00:12:08,079 service award 290 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:09,839 she continues to be a close friend and 291 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:12,800 staunch supporter of dr mae jemison who 292 00:12:17,269 --> 00:12:14,880 first saw lieutenant uhura when she was 293 00:12:18,790 --> 00:12:17,279 nine years old and was determined to 294 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:18,800 follow her dream to become the first 295 00:12:22,470 --> 00:12:20,639 woman of color astronaut 296 00:12:25,190 --> 00:12:22,480 which she did 297 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:25,200 please join me in welcoming ms michelle 298 00:12:36,639 --> 00:13:02,069 thank you thank you 299 00:13:09,190 --> 00:13:04,150 i thank you 300 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:09,200 daniela thank you mary 301 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:10,800 and 302 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:13,360 this whole organization 303 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:15,360 and 304 00:13:18,230 --> 00:13:16,720 i thank 305 00:13:20,389 --> 00:13:18,240 the blessing 306 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:20,399 that um 307 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:21,680 brings out 308 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:25,040 so many people who believe 309 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,110 where we're going 310 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:30,959 where we've been 311 00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:33,360 and where how we're going to get 312 00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:35,040 to the next step 313 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:37,519 doesn't make any difference we're gonna 314 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:38,480 go 315 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:40,240 we're 316 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:45,680 whatever it takes 317 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:46,560 young 318 00:13:55,750 --> 00:13:49,760 men and women who are 319 00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:58,710 you give me shivers 320 00:14:01,910 --> 00:13:59,760 so 321 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:01,920 any mistakes that i make up here your 322 00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:09,590 i think you're the luckiest people on 323 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:11,199 the planet 324 00:14:15,509 --> 00:14:13,600 including those who 325 00:14:16,949 --> 00:14:15,519 stood who 326 00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:16,959 are not part of 327 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:20,560 are not you are part and parcel of this 328 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,639 wonderful event tonight 329 00:14:26,790 --> 00:14:24,320 um 330 00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:26,800 it gives me great pleasure to have been 331 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:31,189 to 332 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:34,240 be part of this 333 00:14:38,389 --> 00:14:36,000 and i don't know what i'm doing either 334 00:14:42,629 --> 00:14:38,399 so whatever happens 335 00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:42,639 pretend that i know what i'm doing 336 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:45,519 i was so honored when nasa asked me 337 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:47,600 uh to partake 338 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:48,639 and 339 00:14:51,990 --> 00:14:50,320 now that i'm here 340 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:52,000 and see you all 341 00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:53,839 i truly know 342 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:55,920 how important 343 00:14:58,470 --> 00:14:56,959 um 344 00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:58,480 what you're doing 345 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:00,560 what you're giving 346 00:15:04,230 --> 00:15:02,800 what you're receiving 347 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:04,240 and 348 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:06,399 what will make this world 349 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:08,959 a better place each and every one of you 350 00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:11,360 have a hand in this 351 00:15:18,069 --> 00:15:13,120 and 352 00:15:19,350 --> 00:15:18,079 get to my business thank you judges for 353 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:19,360 joining us 354 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:20,320 our 355 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:24,550 auspicious 356 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:27,839 panel of judges 357 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:42,870 contestants good luck and um you have my 358 00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:45,440 blessings each and every one of you 359 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:47,440 you each deserve it 360 00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:48,800 thank you 361 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:51,279 our first contestant 362 00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:54,480 here at fam lab astrobiology 363 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:56,480 our first contestant is michael 364 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:58,480 chieftain 365 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:03,590 chafton 366 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,829 and um 367 00:16:13,839 --> 00:16:17,590 even though i lived in the 368 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,949 23rd century 369 00:16:27,430 --> 00:16:24,870 um i beam back here now which means 370 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:27,440 that the perfection that it that mankind 371 00:16:33,509 --> 00:16:31,120 achieved in the 23rd century has not 372 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:33,519 quite caught up in this century so i'm 373 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:40,310 our first contestant 374 00:16:43,749 --> 00:16:42,560 is michael chapton 375 00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:43,759 chatham 376 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,870 jeez 377 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:55,430 chef chief chad 378 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:02,790 he's a planetary scientist 379 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:04,959 he will be addressing the following 380 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:07,199 question 381 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:08,959 where did how did they get her up on the 382 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:29,510 does science require 383 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:30,789 are you ready 384 00:17:34,150 --> 00:17:32,480 we're going to resolve all conflicts 385 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:34,160 between science and faith in under three 386 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:35,440 minutes 387 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:37,120 and i'm going to help by telling you a 388 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:39,200 story about the stars 389 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:40,960 stars rise in the east and set in the 390 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,360 west passing overhead every night but 391 00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:45,440 one star doesn't move 392 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,720 polaris 393 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:48,240 the north star 394 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,760 we call it polaris because it's above 395 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:51,120 the earth's pole 396 00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:52,480 and if you can imagine spinning a 397 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:54,480 basketball in the tip of your finger 398 00:17:58,950 --> 00:17:55,919 it's on one of those two points on the 399 00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:58,960 basketball that doesn't move as it spins 400 00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:00,240 it doesn't move in the sky and that's 401 00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:02,559 why it's so useful for navigation 402 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:05,360 but polaris wasn't always the north star 403 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:07,600 the earth spins like a top and like a 404 00:18:12,230 --> 00:18:10,240 top spinning down it wobbles 405 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:12,240 the wobble is so slow 406 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:14,559 so slow that it takes 26 000 years for 407 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:16,640 the earth to wobble once 408 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:18,240 that's slow enough that when we point to 409 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:19,440 polaris 410 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:20,960 we're pointing to the same north star 411 00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,150 so this wobble which scientists call 412 00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,720 procession is slow it's hard to detect 413 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,160 so maybe you're saying we've only known 414 00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:32,320 about it for 50 years maybe a hundred 415 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:33,280 tops 416 00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:34,880 but i'm here to tell you that we've 417 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:37,440 known about it since antiquity 418 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:38,960 two thousand years ago a man named 419 00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,880 heparkus was an astronomer on the isle 420 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:43,200 of rhodes in the mediterranean sea 421 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:44,720 he was the first astronomer to make a 422 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,360 comprehensive chart of the stars 423 00:18:51,510 --> 00:18:48,880 he would look at a star in the heavens 424 00:18:53,110 --> 00:18:51,520 and mark it down on his chart 425 00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:53,120 and while he was making his charts he 426 00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:55,039 came across an earlier chart 427 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:56,720 made two hundred years before by 428 00:19:01,750 --> 00:18:58,880 timocheris of alexandria 429 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:01,760 and he noticed a strange discrepancy 430 00:19:06,470 --> 00:19:04,480 the bright star spica was two degrees 431 00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:06,480 off in timacaris's chart from where 432 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:09,039 hipparchus saw it in the sky 433 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:10,400 two degrees 434 00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:12,000 if you stretch out both of your thumbs 435 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:13,919 in front of you at arm's length that's 436 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:16,559 about two degrees from end to end 437 00:19:18,950 --> 00:19:17,760 it's a small enough difference that i 438 00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:18,960 think most people would have looked at 439 00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:21,039 timocaris's chart and said 440 00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:22,160 no way 441 00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,799 the stars don't move not that much the 442 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,559 heavens are supposed to be perfect right 443 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:28,160 unchanging 444 00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:31,120 but timocharis but parkas had faith 445 00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,039 faith in timocharis a man who lived 200 446 00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:34,960 years before he was born 447 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:36,240 faith that he had made a difficult 448 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:38,080 observation 449 00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:40,400 it's the same kind of faith that we need 450 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:42,559 today as scientists 451 00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:45,280 especially in astrobiology a field which 452 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:48,000 combines disciplines combines expertise 453 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,679 that takes more than one lifetime to 454 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,120 accrue 455 00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:53,200 and on a deeper level when people say 456 00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:54,880 that science and faith are opposites i 457 00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:58,400 think what they mean is that faith is 458 00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,280 content with unexamined explanation 459 00:20:05,110 --> 00:20:03,280 whereas science requires deliberate 460 00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:05,120 exploration 461 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:08,240 but science in a very real way does 462 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:11,120 require faith faith in each other but in 463 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,400 a deeper way 464 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:14,240 as hipparchus knew and as carl sagan 465 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:15,280 once said 466 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:18,000 faith that somewhere out there something 467 00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:21,280 incredible is waiting to be known 468 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:37,830 michael chafin 469 00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:40,230 and now we're going to 470 00:20:44,549 --> 00:20:42,159 take three minutes of questions and 471 00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:44,559 comments from our judges that was 472 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:47,440 wonderful michael incidentally 473 00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:49,200 judges 474 00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:52,159 michael that was great thank you um 475 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:53,280 so 476 00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,720 as i understand it you're saying that 477 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,480 even as scientists uh 478 00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:58,159 even though sometimes people say science 479 00:21:01,990 --> 00:21:00,159 doesn't require faith it does because 480 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:02,000 you can't do every experiment yourself 481 00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,760 and you have to take other people's word 482 00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:06,080 for it so but then 483 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:07,440 you can't take everybody's word for 484 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:08,799 everything so 485 00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:11,039 how do you distinguish between what you 486 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,640 should take on faith and and what you 487 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,200 shouldn't ah it's a great question um so 488 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:17,280 there is a practical way or a pragmatic 489 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:19,039 way in which science does require faith 490 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:20,720 right we can't go out there and repeat 491 00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:23,200 every experiment um but 492 00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:24,880 at the same time right there's a deeper 493 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,480 level of faith that's required in 494 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:28,720 science a faith that our brains which 495 00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,799 after all are evolved from single-celled 496 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,559 organisms are capable of understanding 497 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,640 and interpreting the universe 498 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,000 i think it's very important right 499 00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,720 science is not all about faith 500 00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,799 fundamentally it's about let's see let's 501 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:42,880 go out there and do experiments and test 502 00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:44,880 things about the universe right but 503 00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,080 there's a faith that we're all in that 504 00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:48,080 together that as a scientific community 505 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,840 we can unravel the secrets of the 506 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:51,200 universe and 507 00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,720 distill them into concrete statements 508 00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:56,240 thank you michael that was really a 509 00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,679 terrific presentation i particularly 510 00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:59,200 like your class and i have a very quick 511 00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,799 question and i like a very quick answer 512 00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:02,320 because we're limited to three minutes 513 00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:04,880 sure when we when did you first 514 00:22:10,310 --> 00:22:07,200 become aware in your scientific career 515 00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:10,320 that you needed to operate on some faith 516 00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:13,600 uh well i don't know so i guess um 517 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,760 it starts out the way that our education 518 00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:17,280 system operates 519 00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,200 uh it's sort of teacher in front of sage 520 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,640 on a stage right there's a teacher in 521 00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:22,080 front of the room telling you things on 522 00:22:26,149 --> 00:22:23,679 faith right and sort of the i think 523 00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,159 everybody takes science on faith 524 00:22:30,870 --> 00:22:28,480 initially maybe the gap that you need to 525 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,880 breach is to say i have faith that i can 526 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,120 discover these things myself that as a 527 00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:35,360 community we can go out there and figure 528 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:37,840 things out 529 00:23:35,270 --> 00:22:38,480 i 530 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:35,280 our next contestant 531 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,120 is kate fullette 532 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:39,600 and she is an astronomer 533 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,080 she's going to tell us 534 00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:44,159 that they call it 535 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:59,590 for a reason 536 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,590 when i talk to people about what i do 537 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,200 which is to look for planets around 538 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,600 other stars they almost never ask me 539 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:07,919 questions about planets they want to 540 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:10,720 know about aliens 541 00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:12,720 in fact no joke the gentleman sitting 542 00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:14,240 next to me on the plane on my way here 543 00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:16,559 to atlanta last week said 544 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,720 so you're an astronomer why haven't you 545 00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:21,200 found e.t yet 546 00:24:24,549 --> 00:24:22,559 and i said 547 00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,559 you know i sense this frustration in him 548 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,919 and in other people who ask me these 549 00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:27,600 questions and i want people to know that 550 00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:31,039 we really are trying it's not just uh 551 00:24:35,029 --> 00:24:32,799 laziness on our part that means that we 552 00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:35,039 haven't found a habitable planet yet 553 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:37,919 it's fundamentally a problem of space 554 00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,640 after all we call it space 555 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,400 for a reason 556 00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:44,400 so i want to do a simple model here to 557 00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:46,240 put that into context so i want you to 558 00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:48,400 imagine that this apple represents the 559 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:50,880 entire earth everything you know and 560 00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,269 okay so if this is the earth then the 561 00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,120 moon would be about the size of a penny 562 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,360 so our nearest nearest object to the 563 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,960 earth and this is the audience 564 00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,400 participation part i'm going to move it 565 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,080 away from the apple and i want you guys 566 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,080 to make some noise when you think i may 567 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:09,919 have made a good model of the earth moon 568 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:16,630 okay so about here-ish of course i fed 569 00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:19,440 them that but um 570 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:21,919 here-ish is where most people guess but 571 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:24,720 in reality i can't even stretch my arms 572 00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:26,880 out far enough so i'm going to need to 573 00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,960 set this apple down and move six and a 574 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:31,360 half feet this way so here's my penny 575 00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,120 and i'm just gonna drop it because uh 576 00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:35,039 the moon is sterile and i though there's 577 00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:36,960 no life there so i'm gonna keep going 578 00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:39,039 and at this point i'm farther away from 579 00:25:43,350 --> 00:25:41,120 that apple than any human being has ever 580 00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,360 been from the earth 581 00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:44,960 and as i reach the edge of the stage 582 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,840 here i'm not even anywhere near 583 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:50,240 mars our nearest neighbor mars is in 584 00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,200 fact a quarter of a mile that way 585 00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:55,039 and the edge of our solar system where 586 00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,720 the voyager spacecraft are now so the 587 00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,880 farthest any man-made object has ever 588 00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:00,880 been from the earth that's four miles 589 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,559 that way on the other side of downtown 590 00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:03,840 atlanta 591 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,600 so when we're looking for planets around 592 00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:07,440 other stars we need to go to the nearest 593 00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,760 stars how far away are those 594 00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:11,360 our nearest star 595 00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:15,760 is 140 000 miles that way in this model 596 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:17,919 that's halfway to the moon 597 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:23,110 and at that distance what we're doing 598 00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,720 we're astronomers on that apple over 599 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:27,360 there we're looking 140 000 miles away 600 00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,279 for another apple 601 00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,520 and in that context it seems like an 602 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,120 impossible problem 603 00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:34,960 so you know i'm here to tell you it's 604 00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:37,679 possible in fact we've already found at 605 00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:40,080 those kinds of distances 606 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:42,159 watermelons and cantaloupes and even 607 00:26:45,830 --> 00:26:43,760 grapefruits 608 00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,840 we just need a little bit more time to 609 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,360 shrink the size of the fruit that we're 610 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:50,400 finding until we find another apple out 611 00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:52,720 there in the cosmos and science catches 612 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:05,269 judges 613 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,430 well first of all i'm hungry now um 614 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:08,720 would you like 615 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:09,360 it 616 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:17,440 you on the plane when you head home and 617 00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,880 and you go through and you tell me how 618 00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,360 big space is so my answer or my question 619 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:24,080 to you is if space is so big 620 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,440 okay so how are we going to find et 621 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,279 well i mean it's pretty remarkable the 622 00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,960 technology that we already have has 623 00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:33,120 allowed us and you know i was making a 624 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,720 joke but we really have found things 625 00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:36,480 that are only a little bit bigger than 626 00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,880 the apple in this scale model we've 627 00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,720 found super ears that are a couple times 628 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,159 bigger than the apple which is why i use 629 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:43,440 the grapefruit 630 00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:44,320 so 631 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,919 hope that you know technological 632 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,440 improvement will continue and we'll 633 00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,120 we'll be able to find one that's great 634 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:55,750 very nice job i really liked your fruit 635 00:27:58,710 --> 00:27:57,520 metaphors and how did you come up with 636 00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,720 the fruit was it because fruit was 637 00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:01,039 sitting outside in the lobby all day 638 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:02,640 well i used to use a tennis ball but i 639 00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:09,669 so you think so we're going to find 640 00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:11,360 these apples pretty soon but then how 641 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:12,559 are you going to figure out if there are 642 00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,310 that's not a problem that i have to 643 00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:19,919 investigate 644 00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:36,950 thank you kate 645 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,350 warmer than apple 646 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,310 hold on 647 00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:48,549 okay judges while they're doing their 648 00:29:03,669 --> 00:28:56,149 judge 649 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,679 minutes are up 650 00:29:07,350 --> 00:29:05,440 our next 651 00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:07,360 is heather graham 652 00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,120 she's an organic 653 00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,200 geochemist 654 00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:13,120 and she's going to talk about 655 00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,440 hashtag occupy the universe 656 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:19,039 a hashtag 657 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,110 i have a confession to make to all of 658 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:35,840 you and this is very unpopular for me to 659 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,360 say but i'm a one percenter 660 00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:41,039 i'm part of the one percent you've heard 661 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:42,000 about 662 00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:44,159 actually david is as well 663 00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:45,840 you should know and strangely enough so 664 00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:47,840 is his hat 665 00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:49,520 but before you raise our taxes you 666 00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:50,880 should probably know that all of you are 667 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,360 one percenters as well and all the 668 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:54,960 occupiers on wall street are one 669 00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:56,799 percenters in fact everyone on the 670 00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,039 planet including our planet and all the 671 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:01,200 other planets out there were all one 672 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,559 percenters 673 00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,080 so you're probably wondering what makes 674 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:06,559 us all part of this exclusive group and 675 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:08,480 it's because we're made of matter 676 00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:10,880 so that means we have volume we take up 677 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:13,520 space and we have mass sometimes more 678 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,799 than we'll admit to 679 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,880 and we can be detected visually with the 680 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,399 senses 681 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:20,159 but nearly 99 682 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,000 most of the universe out there we can't 683 00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,399 see can't be detected visually 684 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:26,159 but even though we can't see it we have 685 00:30:30,870 --> 00:30:29,200 ways of knowing that the 99 is out there 686 00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:30,880 one of the ways that we know is we look 687 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,039 out with telescopes into space and we 688 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:35,440 see these big hot clouds of gas out 689 00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,360 there but they're not acting like a 690 00:30:41,110 --> 00:30:39,600 cloud they're not dispersing instead 691 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:41,120 they're being held together very 692 00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:43,840 strongly by gravitational force 693 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,520 and you remember that gravity is the 694 00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,080 attractive force between two masses so 695 00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:49,919 that means there's some big mass in that 696 00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,240 cloud that we can't see that's holding 697 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:54,159 it together 698 00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:55,760 so another way that we have detecting 699 00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:57,120 the 99 700 00:31:01,430 --> 00:30:59,279 is we can try to estimate the mass of 701 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,440 galaxies and we do that by using the 702 00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:03,519 motion of objects within them and when 703 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,399 we calculate that mass of a galaxy it's 704 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:08,000 much much greater than if we were just 705 00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:10,720 to count up all the individual masses of 706 00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,559 the luminous objects in the galaxy 707 00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:14,159 things like stars and dust that are 708 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,679 lighting up 709 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,360 so that means there's some big mass in 710 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,840 that galaxy contributing to its total 711 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:22,320 total weight that's not lighting up so 712 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:24,240 we call it dark matter 713 00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:25,600 but now that you know that you're all 714 00:31:28,310 --> 00:31:27,039 part of the elite one percent you're 715 00:31:30,470 --> 00:31:28,320 probably wondering why we should even 716 00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:30,480 care about the 99 percent i mean 717 00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:36,950 but actually the 99 is pretty important 718 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,039 without that big mass in that galaxy it 719 00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:41,600 might just fly apart for lack of gravity 720 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:42,960 and this is going to sound very 721 00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:44,960 melodramatic but actually the fate of 722 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,399 the universe depends on the 99 percent 723 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,320 see our universe is locked in a struggle 724 00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,480 right now between the leftover momentum 725 00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,640 of expansion from the big bang and the 726 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:56,399 gravity of all the objects within it 727 00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,000 that hold it together 728 00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,480 and if at any point that gravity becomes 729 00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,159 bigger than that outward momentum of 730 00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,240 expansion our universe will crunch in 731 00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,080 and collapse on itself 732 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,399 but luckily some of that 99 out there 733 00:32:12,070 --> 00:32:09,919 has this very strange trait we don't 734 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,080 really understand yet that's exerting a 735 00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:14,159 negative pressure on the universe so 736 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:15,760 instead of falling in on ourselves we're 737 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:18,080 expanding at an ever greater rate 738 00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:19,840 so that means for us one percenters 739 00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:21,519 every day we're not squished by our own 740 00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,389 judges 741 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:36,080 thank you heather that was a very nicely 742 00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:38,000 constructed narrative and i thank you 743 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:40,320 for that 744 00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,720 yeah it was great um so but 745 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,919 while we have you here i just have to 746 00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:45,840 know so what is the fate of the universe 747 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:51,269 oh oh i'm not at liberty to say i'm so 748 00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:56,070 i thought it was terrific i think you 749 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:58,320 know the the thing about 750 00:33:01,430 --> 00:32:59,760 the thing you've done well here is 751 00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:01,440 you've taken a construct that we all 752 00:33:04,549 --> 00:33:02,799 have heard about obviously in the news 753 00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,559 for the last however many months and 754 00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:06,080 made us all think about it and you know 755 00:33:10,310 --> 00:33:08,799 and and drawn this great analogy so a 756 00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:10,320 really nice job tonight i've been 757 00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:11,679 desperately afraid that people will 758 00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:13,600 forget about the aquify museum before 759 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,750 terrific thank you 760 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:21,029 thank you 761 00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:29,430 our next speaker is noah hammond 762 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:32,640 noah is a planetary scientist who speak 763 00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:36,880 about the late heavy bombardment 764 00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:41,919 the solar system's civil war 765 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:52,230 the most violent time in the history of 766 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,360 the earth was 4 billion years ago during 767 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,519 what i like to call the solar system's 768 00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,039 civil war 769 00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:01,440 so it had profound effects for life on 770 00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:02,240 earth 771 00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:04,840 and implications for life in the 772 00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:07,679 universe so let's pretend michelle 773 00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,839 nichols is the sun or our star 774 00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:13,599 so right next to her we have the inner 775 00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:16,960 solar system among them earth 776 00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,679 fragile maybe with oceans and life on it 777 00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:20,800 at this time 778 00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:23,440 and out here we have jupiter 779 00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,639 and saturn 780 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:27,359 the enemies of earth 781 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,720 so they get into this kind of 782 00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:30,800 gravitational tug of war 783 00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:32,879 where as they pass close to one another 784 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,879 in their orbits they attract each other 785 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,879 with their immense gravities and that 786 00:34:41,669 --> 00:34:39,200 changes their orbits dramatically 787 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,679 and the asteroid belt right next to it 788 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:43,760 is some of it is flung through the inner 789 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,480 solar system attacking the inner planets 790 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,960 bombarding their surfaces 791 00:34:52,950 --> 00:34:50,720 this is a theory 792 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,960 called the late heavy bombardment 793 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,440 and the evidence for it comes from the 794 00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:56,480 moon 795 00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:00,720 collected samples from some of the 796 00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,359 largest impact craters and we dated 797 00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:05,599 those samples to all be around the same 798 00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:08,480 age of 4 billion years ago 799 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,200 so that means if the moon was impacted 800 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:13,920 the earth was even more so its larger 801 00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:16,720 gravity would pull in more impactors 802 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,000 so 803 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:19,920 picture this in your mind's eye 804 00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,200 an asteroid so immense that it careens 805 00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,920 through the atmosphere and 806 00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,240 boom impacts the atlantic ocean and 807 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,800 boils off all the water this is how 808 00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:32,880 extreme we think this event might have 809 00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,320 been 810 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,640 so it's very likely that life on the 811 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:38,240 surface of the earth 812 00:35:41,109 --> 00:35:39,760 would not have been able to survive this 813 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:41,119 event 814 00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,240 but if it lived below the surface 815 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:46,320 shielded from the chaos above 816 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:48,720 it might have and there are organisms 817 00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:52,160 which we know can live in that area 818 00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:54,000 a second possibility 819 00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,920 is that life had to arrive 820 00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,359 after this event 821 00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,839 in which case it did so very quickly 822 00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:01,680 because some of the first chemical 823 00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,760 evidence of life 824 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,480 we find happens just after this solar 825 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,240 system civil war 826 00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:10,160 so that means it didn't take as long as 827 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,560 we thought to go from atoms and 828 00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:15,119 molecules to some of the first living 829 00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:16,480 organisms 830 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,280 and if it didn't take long for life to 831 00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:21,760 arise on this planet 832 00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:24,000 it might not take long for life to arise 833 00:36:27,670 --> 00:36:26,160 on other planets in other parts of the 834 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:27,680 galaxy 835 00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,320 so from the solar system civil war we 836 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,920 learned that the probability of lives 837 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,760 elsewhere might be higher than we 838 00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:35,040 thought 839 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,230 judges 840 00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:47,270 nice job noah and uh encouraging uh 841 00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,520 punchline i like to think of 842 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,920 the chances being good out there about i 843 00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:53,680 have a question so you said that jupiter 844 00:36:57,670 --> 00:36:55,839 is the enemy of earth but we often hear 845 00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:57,680 about in astrobiology about jupiter 846 00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,400 protecting the earth from 847 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:02,240 a greater number of impacts that we 848 00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,720 would have if jupiter wasn't fending off 849 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:07,119 the asteroids and com comets so 850 00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:10,240 when and why did jupiter switch sides 851 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,119 that turn cloak yeah well what we know 852 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:15,440 is that uh since jupiter the largest 853 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:18,960 planet has a very large effect on comets 854 00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:22,880 and asteroids uh near its orbit and so 855 00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,000 at that time it got into this two one 856 00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:29,440 resonance with saturn which moved it 857 00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:32,720 around and it exerted its influence on 858 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:35,359 the solar system and now today 859 00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:38,160 uh it's in a more stable orbit 860 00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,040 and 861 00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,000 uh it you know many uh things are still 862 00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,000 impacting it like the shoemaker levy 863 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,680 comet that we saw today when when that 864 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:47,040 came out it's like oh thank you our 865 00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:48,640 protector jupiter 866 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,960 so uh like the key message is it has a 867 00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,480 very strong influence on the solar 868 00:37:56,069 --> 00:37:54,320 system 869 00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:56,079 great job noah thank you i have a 870 00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,160 question if you were a micro with a 871 00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:00,720 movie camera standing behind a rock four 872 00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:03,040 billion years ago on early earth during 873 00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:05,040 the late having bombarment what would 874 00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:07,839 you see i mean are we seeing bombardment 875 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,480 every day every week every month every 876 00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:12,640 few years can you give us just quickly 877 00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:14,720 like a picture of what you would see oh 878 00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,480 that's a tough question 879 00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,400 and you know if we had a time machine i 880 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,560 might like to go back and see that but 881 00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:22,880 then i want to take some protective gear 882 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,119 uh it's difficult to really say i know 883 00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:27,520 that uh you know the moon has many very 884 00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:30,240 large impact craters on it and 885 00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:31,200 the 886 00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:35,359 being bombarded which is over a period 887 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,240 of around 200 million years uh there was 888 00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:41,200 some very humongous impacts 889 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:43,760 and how far apart they were spaced i 890 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,400 can't exactly say off the top of my head 891 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,880 but it's an excellent question 892 00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,000 i don't know if i could top that 893 00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:52,880 question um so you know no obviously 894 00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:53,839 you've got great skills as a 895 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,599 communicator 896 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,880 you know and there's a lot of great 897 00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,560 scientists here in the room 898 00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,560 why do you wanna why do you wanna not 899 00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,920 only do science but communicate it 900 00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,119 what's what's so important about it to 901 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:05,359 you well i think that there's just so 902 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,160 many cool stories about the universe 903 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:11,040 that nobody's really heard of before and 904 00:39:15,670 --> 00:39:13,920 uh telling them it's just so much fun 905 00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:15,680 that's the short answer in a nutshell 906 00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:16,720 right there 907 00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:26,870 thank you noah 908 00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:29,190 we're now going we're now going to hear 909 00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,400 from 910 00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:32,320 lucas joel 911 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:52,079 lucas is a paleontologist 912 00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,280 and lucas is going to explore the 913 00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:57,200 curious case 914 00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,880 of the first 915 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:00,400 animal 916 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:14,950 lucas 917 00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:17,349 we all love a good detective story 918 00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,280 because detectives ask the most 919 00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:22,000 intriguing questions who did it who 920 00:40:25,069 --> 00:40:23,920 committed the murder who stole the 921 00:40:27,270 --> 00:40:25,079 jewels 922 00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:27,280 paleontologists which are scientists 923 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,040 that study fossils 924 00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:31,040 ask many of the same detective-like 925 00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:32,160 questions 926 00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,680 how did this animal which is now a 927 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:35,200 fossil die 928 00:40:38,710 --> 00:40:36,640 how did it live 929 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:38,720 one big problem paleontologists face 930 00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:41,520 however is their fossils or their crime 931 00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:43,440 scenes have sometimes been left out in 932 00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:44,960 the heat and rain for millions and 933 00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,720 millions of years 934 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:48,319 this can make mystery solving a little 935 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,280 difficult 936 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:51,520 but what if we could go back in time to 937 00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,520 the scene of the crime to see these 938 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,200 animals that they once were 939 00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:57,119 well lucky for us 940 00:41:01,270 --> 00:40:59,520 i'm a time traveling detective 941 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:01,280 and we can use my magical time machine 942 00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:04,240 to go back and on this trip solve one of 943 00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:05,920 the greatest fossil mysteries of all 944 00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:08,400 time that is what was the first animal 945 00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:10,880 to ever move so why waste any time let's 946 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:13,280 get going back to the jurassic period 947 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,230 step out what do we see well dinosaurs 948 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:22,240 of course they're everywhere look 949 00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,400 there's a massive stegosaurus lumbering 950 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,800 along dinosaurs all around all of them 951 00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:29,200 moving but is this the first animal 952 00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:30,240 movement 953 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:31,119 no 954 00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,720 life spans the past three and a half 955 00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:34,560 billion years of the earth's history we 956 00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:36,079 have to go way back to see the first 957 00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:38,079 animal movement so back into the time 958 00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,359 machine 959 00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:41,520 an additional 400 million years into the 960 00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,470 step out and where are we we're in the 961 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,800 ediacaran period of geologic time there 962 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,520 are no land plants no land animals but 963 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:53,599 if we swim out beneath the waves we see 964 00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,640 a gorgeous scene a garden of alien-like 965 00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,160 life-forms that we can see with the 966 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,280 naked eye 967 00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,280 for the first three billion years of the 968 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,839 history of life life was microscopic you 969 00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,760 couldn't see it but now we can see 970 00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,359 things with naked eye 971 00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,960 first glance everything we see is 972 00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,280 stationary nothing's moving 973 00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,359 but wait what's that there's a tiny 974 00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,280 little worm moving through the sand 975 00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:17,119 pushing aside grains that are almost as 976 00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:18,400 big as he is 977 00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:20,720 this is the first animal movement while 978 00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,119 small this worm has huge implications 979 00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,359 for all life that's because this worm is 980 00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,599 a biliterion a bilaterian is an animal 981 00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:29,280 with bilateral symmetry up and down the 982 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,440 midline as well as the through going gut 983 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:34,560 like you me dinosaurs mosquitoes 984 00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,880 what bilaterans also have is a body 985 00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:38,960 cavity and this is the key feature 986 00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,960 enabling this bilaterian to move through 987 00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:42,079 the sand 988 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:43,920 so really this little guy is all a 989 00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:47,040 spilotarians in one remarkable i'd say 990 00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:48,720 that until we discover an even older 991 00:42:52,950 --> 00:42:50,640 moving animal we've solved the mystery 992 00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,960 of the first animal movement 993 00:42:57,270 --> 00:42:54,000 so 994 00:42:59,430 --> 00:42:57,280 could move 995 00:43:01,750 --> 00:42:59,440 but what's even more singular 996 00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:01,760 is that this worm is part of the dawn of 997 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:04,240 complex life on this planet 998 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,960 so 999 00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,560 because we've already run this early 1000 00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,800 evolutionary experiment here on earth it 1001 00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:10,800 gives us a framework or a search image 1002 00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:12,560 for how life might evolve on a distant 1003 00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,079 exoplanet 1004 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:16,319 and life on another planet well that 1005 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:17,680 sounds to me like a mystery worth 1006 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,030 thank you joel judges 1007 00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,359 very nice lucas and and you know always 1008 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:33,359 great when you can use props to uh to 1009 00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:35,760 reinforce your case um 1010 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,440 so 1011 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:39,359 you get up and you're and you you're 1012 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,319 talking to a group of of 1013 00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:44,240 sixth graders yes i mean science 1014 00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,599 communication you know is often about 1015 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,359 getting them young 1016 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:49,599 do you can you maintain that level of 1017 00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:52,160 energy the whole time or do you 1018 00:43:56,230 --> 00:43:53,599 i don't know i'm not as young as i used 1019 00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,829 well excellent and and i and i 1020 00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,280 particularly like your use of sound 1021 00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,720 effects because i'm convinced that's 1022 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:02,480 exact sound that a time machine would 1023 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:04,720 make uh if you were to go back in time 1024 00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,880 so very nice 1025 00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,280 great job lucas thank you i have two 1026 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,960 quick questions uh who's your favorite 1027 00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:12,720 detective and if you could choose a 1028 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,760 planet to go on your own mission to look 1029 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:17,440 for life there what would you choose 1030 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:20,000 planet or planetary body 1031 00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,800 my favorite detective 1032 00:44:25,349 --> 00:44:24,240 um 1033 00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,359 well 1034 00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:27,359 i have to pay homage to sherlock holmes 1035 00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:28,880 i never said his name while i was up 1036 00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,230 if he had been 1037 00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,400 a scientist he was a scientist but if he 1038 00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:38,720 had been one that we in the way we think 1039 00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:40,000 of it he would have been a 1040 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,510 that was great um 1041 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:49,200 this is sort of a nerdy question maybe 1042 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:52,079 but what about the little um 1043 00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:54,880 bacteria with cilia that swim around um 1044 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,280 why why aren't they the first uh 1045 00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,359 animal movement so this is the first 1046 00:45:02,069 --> 00:45:00,800 animal movement 1047 00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:02,079 so they're cells they don't count as 1048 00:45:19,030 --> 00:45:10,150 it was thank you thanks a lot 1049 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,390 our next 1050 00:45:27,390 --> 00:45:26,069 contestant is on the fam lab staged 1051 00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:27,400 coming up 1052 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:29,520 astrophysicist brendan mullen i'll be 1053 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:36,630 brendan wants to know 1054 00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:39,680 where are the aliens 1055 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:42,079 where's brendan i'm right here i want to 1056 00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,710 i haven't sold it yet in case you're 1057 00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:58,480 wondering 1058 00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:00,560 which is weird because you know this is 1059 00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:02,640 prime real estate here 1060 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,599 we're on a planet rich in liquid water 1061 00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:07,040 and breathable air 1062 00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,359 at just the right distance from the sun 1063 00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,440 we've got an asteroid belt right in our 1064 00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:13,440 backyard full of plenty of raw materials 1065 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,440 for building spaceships or silver 1066 00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:18,160 jumpsuits or whatever aliens do 1067 00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,839 it just it doesn't make sense you know 1068 00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:21,839 like i should be swarmed with potential 1069 00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:23,839 buyers now because you know it's not 1070 00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,560 that hard to travel between the stars 1071 00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:28,480 seriously i mean we could do it if we 1072 00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:30,560 really wanted to in just a few 1073 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,680 generations time ambition and innovation 1074 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,680 we could propel astronauts out of the 1075 00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:38,160 solar system at a tenth of the speed of 1076 00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:39,119 light 1077 00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,319 if that were you 1078 00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,480 now you would be halfway to the moon by 1079 00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:44,640 the time i finish the sentence 1080 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,079 it's fast 1081 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,079 in decades a century of travel the 1082 00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,319 nearest stars and the planets that orbit 1083 00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,640 around them would be yours or your 1084 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,960 descendants more likely after settling 1085 00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,640 down for a while they could send out 1086 00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,640 their own pioneers and reach more 1087 00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:00,160 distant stars 1088 00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,640 and over time waves of our interstellar 1089 00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,560 voyagers would cascade across the 1090 00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,960 fertile worlds of the cosmos 1091 00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:09,359 and if we can do that so could someone 1092 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,400 else right 1093 00:47:14,710 --> 00:47:12,400 well starting from just about anywhere 1094 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:14,720 you can see in the night sky another 1095 00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:17,520 civilization could leapfrog star to star 1096 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:18,880 just like this and wind up on her 1097 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,720 doorstep after a 100 million years tops 1098 00:47:26,390 --> 00:47:24,720 i know what you're thinking oh brenden 1099 00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:26,400 you're far too handsome to wait around 1100 00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,400 that long 1101 00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,319 you flatters no 1102 00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,839 i wasn't gonna plan to wait around that 1103 00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,520 long now they've had plenty of time to 1104 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,960 show up already 1105 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,480 why our earth has been around long 1106 00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:38,319 enough that if aliens arrived every 1107 00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:40,720 hundred million years we would have been 1108 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:44,079 visited dozens of times by now 1109 00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:45,920 no aliens and 1110 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,359 no sale for me 1111 00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,359 no no one has set foot anywhere near our 1112 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:51,280 solar system despite what you might have 1113 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,680 seen on the history channel 1114 00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,280 and we can't be the first civilization 1115 00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:57,839 either now over the last 13 billion 1116 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:00,960 years more stars have formed in our 1117 00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,839 local cosmic neighborhood the milky way 1118 00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,599 than the total number of people who have 1119 00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:08,079 ever existed on our planet 1120 00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,400 even if just a millionth 1121 00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:12,000 of one percent 1122 00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,400 of those stars have had worlds around 1123 00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:16,720 them at one point like ours and could 1124 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,520 support a civilization like ours 1125 00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,079 that's still over a thousand alien 1126 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,760 species 1127 00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:25,599 and it only takes one 1128 00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:28,000 to conquer the stars 1129 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,119 so 1130 00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,319 this should have been easy money 1131 00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:34,400 but where is everybody 1132 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,230 thank you brendan that was wonderful i 1133 00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,880 really like your use of numbers my head 1134 00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:50,240 is spinning 1135 00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:52,000 but this is an important topic which 1136 00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,599 kate addressed in a very different way 1137 00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,680 from a different angle and i thank you 1138 00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:58,000 for it 1139 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:59,200 you know actually i'd like to hear you 1140 00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:00,079 explain something because i think it's 1141 00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,280 an interesting concept that i never 1142 00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:03,119 quite grasp when i when everybody talks 1143 00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,559 about well where are the aliens it's the 1144 00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,559 idea that well they may be out there but 1145 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:08,480 our timeline may not 1146 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,680 line up 1147 00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,800 that 1148 00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,400 you know the the 1149 00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:14,800 how am i describing this that that the 1150 00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:16,720 civilizations may be millions of years 1151 00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:17,599 off 1152 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,280 that's true but if they're millions of 1153 00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:21,280 years off they'll have time to show up 1154 00:49:24,390 --> 00:49:22,880 here of course then that raises the 1155 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,400 problem like you know 1156 00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,400 equivalently what kind of conversation 1157 00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:28,559 would we have with ants you know so 1158 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:31,200 that's one possible solution to this but 1159 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,440 i mean ultimately from the astrophysical 1160 00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,760 side of things which is what i study um 1161 00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,839 the universe ladies and gentlemen wants 1162 00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,000 to kill you but luckily for us it does a 1163 00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:42,319 really terrible job at it and it only 1164 00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,119 lobs something terrible at us every 50 1165 00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,359 or a couple hundred million years or so 1166 00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,760 things like asteroids wayward comets and 1167 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,839 the occasional gamma-ray bursts stellar 1168 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,000 explosion that beams its radiation in 1169 00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,599 our direction 1170 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:57,359 so the idea here is that you know if 1171 00:50:00,470 --> 00:49:58,400 everyone 1172 00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,480 experiences these things then we should 1173 00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,920 all be about the same level and that's 1174 00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:03,839 one possible solution 1175 00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:05,760 so we could all be 1176 00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:07,520 all of our civilizations and our galaxy 1177 00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:08,960 could all just be staring out the night 1178 00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:11,760 sky being like hello where is everybody 1179 00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:17,270 so what is your favorite answer then to 1180 00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:19,280 this this question 1181 00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,400 i would say it's um 75 of what i just 1182 00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,079 said about all the universe trying to 1183 00:50:28,309 --> 00:50:26,559 kill you and all that and i would throw 1184 00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:28,319 in a little dash of 1185 00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:30,160 sustainability with that 1186 00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,200 because 1187 00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,440 you know it requires a lot of energy and 1188 00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,079 i think on the order of a gnp to 1189 00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,160 actually get the resources together to 1190 00:50:42,150 --> 00:50:40,240 shove some people off into space so i 1191 00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,160 mean we like to just look at pictures of 1192 00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:44,240 cats on the internet all day why doesn't 1193 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:59,990 all right thank you 1194 00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:01,030 okay 1195 00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,240 i'm going to get this one right 1196 00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:06,640 our next speaker 1197 00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,760 is liz persec 1198 00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:13,190 yes 1199 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:26,190 the earth is old really old 1200 00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,680 4.5 billion years old 1201 00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:31,599 now can you guys easily get your head 1202 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:34,960 around exactly how long that is 1203 00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:38,480 i can't and i'm a geologist 1204 00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:40,319 the thing is though by understanding 1205 00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:42,800 these billions and billions of years 1206 00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,680 this deep time or geologic time 1207 00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,760 we get the sense of how the earth came 1208 00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:49,680 to be the way it is today 1209 00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,920 how life has been able to evolve and 1210 00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:53,839 thrive on this planet 1211 00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:56,240 so to demonstrate this i bet i brought 1212 00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:59,200 the best prop i could think of 1213 00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:00,880 myself 1214 00:52:04,790 --> 00:52:03,200 you see i'm five foot ten inches tall 1215 00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,800 that means if we were to represent the 1216 00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:06,960 age of the earth in my height 1217 00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:10,079 one inch would be 65 million years that 1218 00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:11,920 means all the way down here at the soles 1219 00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,359 of my feet 4.5 billion years ago 1220 00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,599 the earth is forming from a planetary 1221 00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,960 nebula 1222 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,720 we see the first life on earth about a 1223 00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:23,119 billion years later up here beneath my 1224 00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:25,520 knees these are single-celled 1225 00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:28,400 organisms called bacteria or germs as we 1226 00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:29,520 know them 1227 00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,359 and these are what i study 1228 00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:33,359 about a billion years later we see a 1229 00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,680 buildup of oxygen on the planet 1230 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:37,680 the oxygen you and i breathe today is 1231 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,920 thanks to these bacteria 1232 00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:41,760 that allowed for more advanced life 1233 00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,520 things like algae things called 1234 00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:45,440 eukaryotes to evolve 1235 00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,440 and those eukaryotes dominated the 1236 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,520 planet to my chin 1237 00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,839 for billions of years all life on earth 1238 00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:54,480 was too small to see with the naked eye 1239 00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,480 at my chin as we learned about earlier 1240 00:53:01,750 --> 00:52:59,040 you get an explosion of life things like 1241 00:53:04,470 --> 00:53:01,760 starfish and worms it my nose are the 1242 00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,480 earliest ancestors to the dinosaurs 1243 00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:06,559 which sadly die out about an inch from 1244 00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:08,800 the top of my head 1245 00:53:13,829 --> 00:53:11,040 so where does that leave us as humans 1246 00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,839 where do we fit in well using my time 1247 00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:16,079 scale our earliest ancestors which were 1248 00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:17,839 about half a million years ago they 1249 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:19,119 diverged 1250 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:21,440 you can summarize humanity as 1251 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:22,880 a single hair 1252 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,200 on the top of my head 1253 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,040 so think about that next time you pull 1254 00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:30,480 that stray hair off your shirt 1255 00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:33,359 that flimsy hair represents all of 1256 00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,950 and that is why understanding geologic 1257 00:53:43,270 --> 00:53:40,960 time is so crucial 1258 00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,280 because by knowing how the planet came 1259 00:53:46,710 --> 00:53:45,359 to be the way it did today how we came 1260 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:46,720 to be here 1261 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:49,440 we know what to look for in the universe 1262 00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:50,800 and so i leave you with this thought 1263 00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:52,400 about the universe 1264 00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:55,040 it's about 14 billion years old or in my 1265 00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,240 time scale 18 feet tall 1266 00:54:02,309 --> 00:54:00,480 so i would be standing on the shoulders 1267 00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:02,319 of a liz who was standing on the 1268 00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,559 shoulders of another liz 1269 00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,200 so if life on earth began here and gave 1270 00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:08,880 us humans 1271 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:11,119 what might life look like on a planet 1272 00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,880 where life began 1273 00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:14,559 eight feet 1274 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:30,549 i like your big sigh of relief there at 1275 00:54:35,190 --> 00:54:33,280 the end there liz um you know i i i a 1276 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:35,200 great comment you know one of the things 1277 00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,559 that in television that we do is we 1278 00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,200 reinterpret all the time and i think one 1279 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,559 of the things you did really well is you 1280 00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,760 took a concept that we've seen 1281 00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,760 demonstrated other times before sagan 1282 00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:45,839 did it famously with the cosmic clock is 1283 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:47,040 that what he called 1284 00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:47,760 and 1285 00:54:51,990 --> 00:54:50,640 by putting it in in terms of you you 1286 00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:52,000 reinterpret it for all of us so it's 1287 00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:53,520 always nice to see someone take 1288 00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,720 something that's been done before and do 1289 00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:56,559 it in a really good and new way so that 1290 00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:58,960 was great so thanks a lot and i did this 1291 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,200 because i figured you guys all have the 1292 00:55:05,349 --> 00:55:03,760 same prop you can use 1293 00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,359 no this is key so when you're sitting on 1294 00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:07,119 the airplane flying back to wherever 1295 00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,240 you're from when i head back to 1296 00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:10,720 wisconsin go badgers 1297 00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,520 um 1298 00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:13,520 you guys can explain this and you can 1299 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,559 say you know 1300 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,960 we humans we're not everything we're one 1301 00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,240 hair 1302 00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:20,480 i think that's important 1303 00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,920 took the words out of my mouth liz i was 1304 00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,359 going to compliment you on a use of a 1305 00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,079 prop we all have i have the big chart on 1306 00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:28,880 my wall to show you know geologic time 1307 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:29,680 but 1308 00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,920 using your body as your ruler is it's 1309 00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,520 much more meaningful i think thank you 1310 00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,040 very much 1311 00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:37,359 yeah that was really great um so so how 1312 00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,319 much um how much higher above your head 1313 00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:42,400 do you think life on earth might might 1314 00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:47,270 i would love to have another liz 1315 00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:52,549 i think that it's 1316 00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:54,559 a really good thing to keep into account 1317 00:55:58,150 --> 00:55:56,240 though and there was some talk earlier 1318 00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:58,160 just about sustainability and how we're 1319 00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,440 doing this and 1320 00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:01,920 by understanding that we're that hair it 1321 00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:03,599 really gives us a sense of what it might 1322 00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,520 take to even see 1323 00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,440 us survive another inch on top of my 1324 00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:09,119 head 1325 00:56:17,270 --> 00:56:12,000 i guess we will find out huh 1326 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,430 thank you liz 1327 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,150 wow 1328 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,470 ah 1329 00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,390 i get to a second chance at this one 1330 00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:31,760 because i 1331 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:43,030 au maui 1332 00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,349 gosh omawa 1333 00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,280 is an astronomer 1334 00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:48,799 and she's going to deliver a 1335 00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:51,359 presentation entitled 1336 00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:03,670 you go girl 1337 00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,789 14 years ago i left a career in 1338 00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:08,000 astronomy 1339 00:57:11,670 --> 00:57:10,079 because i thought there was only one way 1340 00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:11,680 to be a scientist 1341 00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:13,520 there was only one kind of person who 1342 00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,200 could be a scientist and it wasn't me 1343 00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:19,680 today i know there is not only one way 1344 00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:21,200 to be a scientist 1345 00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:23,040 just like as a researcher i've 1346 00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:24,799 discovered that ice 1347 00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:27,839 doesn't behave in only one way 1348 00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:30,160 say there's a planet orbiting the sun 1349 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,960 with some bright white ice at the poles 1350 00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:35,040 most of the sun's light is light that we 1351 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,920 can see with our eyes visible light 1352 00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,240 ice on that planet is going to act like 1353 00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,960 this white shirt and reflect most of the 1354 00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,040 visible light that hits it 1355 00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:47,359 if that ice could talk it would say 1356 00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:49,359 something like this to the sun's visible 1357 00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:50,160 light 1358 00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:52,839 okay thanks but like no 1359 00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,079 thanks like light is energy and energy 1360 00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:58,640 can heat so like i'm going to take a 1361 00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,559 little of your light and give you the 1362 00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:01,839 rest back 1363 00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,440 like i don't want to melt i want to grow 1364 00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:07,359 and the more light that ice reflects 1365 00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,480 back to space 1366 00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:10,960 the less light it absorbs the colder the 1367 00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:14,000 planet gets the more ice forms 1368 00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:16,319 my research has shown that without any 1369 00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,240 greenhouse gases in the atmosphere to 1370 00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,720 keep the planet warm planets around 1371 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:22,480 stars that are even brighter than the 1372 00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:23,280 sun 1373 00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:26,880 could become ice-covered snowballs 1374 00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:29,119 but see here's the thing ice doesn't 1375 00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:31,520 treat all types of light equally it 1376 00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:33,920 doesn't behave in only one way 1377 00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:35,920 let's take stars that are cooler than 1378 00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,640 the sun most of their light is infrared 1379 00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:41,040 light not visible light 1380 00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:43,280 ice on a planet orbiting a much cooler 1381 00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,599 star is going to act like these black 1382 00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,400 pants towards infrared light 1383 00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:50,480 if that ice could talk it would say 1384 00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,000 something a little different to its 1385 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:54,720 stars infrared light it would say 1386 00:59:02,309 --> 00:58:57,280 come on in baby 1387 00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:02,319 i want you i need you i have to have you 1388 00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,720 don't worry baby i'm not gonna reject 1389 00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:07,920 you and reflect you i'm going to absorb 1390 00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:09,040 you 1391 00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:15,359 and the more light that ice absorbs the 1392 00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,000 warmer that planet gets remember light 1393 00:59:22,870 --> 00:59:20,720 is energy and energy heats the warmer 1394 00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:22,880 that planet gets what's going to happen 1395 00:59:26,069 --> 00:59:24,319 to that ice 1396 00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,079 it's going to melt 1397 00:59:30,549 --> 00:59:28,000 so what this means is that we may not 1398 00:59:33,589 --> 00:59:30,559 see much in the way of ice on planets 1399 00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,599 orbiting cooler stars and smaller cooler 1400 00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:35,680 stars are most of the stars in the 1401 00:59:41,349 --> 00:59:38,240 universe so our planet with its bright 1402 00:59:43,270 --> 00:59:41,359 polar caps could be pretty rare 1403 00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,280 but as i've found in my life there are 1404 00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,839 many ways to be a scientist so there are 1405 00:59:51,510 --> 00:59:47,920 likely many ways to make a 1406 00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:51,520 life-sustaining planet ice or no ice 1407 00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:54,799 in science and in life there are always 1408 01:00:05,750 --> 00:59:56,960 many possible ways 1409 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,510 judges 1410 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:11,030 that was great i think i think we're 1411 01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,480 seeing a theme here of people using 1412 01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:14,079 props that they don't have to carry on 1413 01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,680 to stage exactly 1414 01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:18,240 so much easier in the suitcase yeah um 1415 01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,880 so that was a really neat way to to 1416 01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,720 illustrate illustrate your point i have 1417 01:00:27,510 --> 01:00:24,240 a question about the planets around 1418 01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:27,520 those um those red dwarf stars wouldn't 1419 01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,160 they just uh or wouldn't those 1420 01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:32,720 stars just have planets farther out that 1421 01:00:35,829 --> 01:00:33,920 had ice 1422 01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:35,839 farther away from the stars so yes if 1423 01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,240 you get farther and so i'm assuming that 1424 01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,240 all of these planets are at the same 1425 01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,720 dist at the same at the distance from 1426 01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:44,319 their star where they receive the same 1427 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:46,079 amount of flux from their star that 1428 01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,920 earth receives from the sun so we're 1429 01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,200 putting them all at the place where 1430 01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:50,960 they're in their habitable zone where 1431 01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:52,319 liquid water 1432 01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:54,799 could exist but yes if you could kick a 1433 01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:57,359 planet far enough away so that that flux 1434 01:01:03,030 --> 01:01:00,079 is way way less than you could make ice 1435 01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:04,950 that was a lovely job 1436 01:01:08,309 --> 01:01:06,720 thank you very much and i wanted to 1437 01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:08,319 compliment you and take take the 1438 01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,480 opportunity also to compliment everyone 1439 01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:12,240 thus far and i'm sure those who follow 1440 01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:14,960 you will do same to to use your body as 1441 01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,839 a prop and and to invite us all onto the 1442 01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:19,599 stage with you and get us to listen to 1443 01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:22,240 your talk about science by 1444 01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,400 just inviting us to look at you 1445 01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:25,839 and look at how comfortable you are and 1446 01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,839 how much fun you are and all of you have 1447 01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:29,760 done this and you've done it really well 1448 01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:32,720 i've seen all of you before if not live 1449 01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:34,799 at least in recording and that's so 1450 01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,960 important in communication it's a way of 1451 01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,799 making establishing a relationship with 1452 01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:40,640 your audience so you've done really well 1453 01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:42,319 there thank you 1454 01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:43,760 okay am i the only one in the room who 1455 01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:50,390 um no it's terrific um so question for 1456 01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:52,079 you back at the beginning you said you 1457 01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:55,280 left science for 14 years 1458 01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:57,520 what brought you back 1459 01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,920 i fell in love with astronomy again i 1460 01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:01,920 was tired of learning about the 1461 01:02:07,589 --> 01:02:04,480 astronomy breakthroughs on tv with 1462 01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:07,599 everyone else and i actually so i went 1463 01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:08,799 away and i 1464 01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:10,240 studied acting 1465 01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:12,559 um and 1466 01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:14,480 was like pulling staples out of paper 1467 01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:15,760 for a living and thought you know i 1468 01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:17,839 think i have a planetary science degree 1469 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:18,960 i could probably get a better job than 1470 01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:21,760 that um so i actually got a job at 1471 01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,359 caltech working for the spitzer space 1472 01:02:27,029 --> 01:02:25,520 telescope just as a help desk operator 1473 01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:27,039 answering questions about the spitzer 1474 01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:28,720 space telescope and then i started to go 1475 01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,720 to science talks again and found that i 1476 01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:32,640 was really attracted to talks about 1477 01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:35,200 extrasolar planets um and i would go to 1478 01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,480 more and more talks and get more and 1479 01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:38,319 more interested and so my my interest 1480 01:02:44,069 --> 01:02:41,440 got reignited um and i thought you know 1481 01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:44,079 i became willing to go back and and get 1482 01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:46,400 that phd and stay this time 1483 01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:48,160 well congratulations that's great thank 1484 01:03:02,069 --> 01:02:49,760 you so much 1485 01:03:08,470 --> 01:03:04,630 so much 1486 01:03:12,150 --> 01:03:08,480 everybody you're so great all of you 1487 01:03:14,710 --> 01:03:12,160 and here comes another one so great 1488 01:03:17,029 --> 01:03:14,720 rebecca turk macleod 1489 01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:17,039 to the stage please 1490 01:03:22,230 --> 01:03:19,680 she's a molecular biologist 1491 01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:22,240 and she's going to tell you about 1492 01:03:25,510 --> 01:03:23,839 the rna 1493 01:03:34,069 --> 01:03:25,520 world 1494 01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:35,990 how did life 1495 01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:38,160 begin 1496 01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,119 no seriously does anybody know 1497 01:03:45,349 --> 01:03:43,680 i don't know the answer to that question 1498 01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,359 but it's something i'm really interested 1499 01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:47,599 in and i do have some ideas about what i 1500 01:03:54,309 --> 01:03:50,799 think might have happened 1501 01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:54,319 and i think it's based on very simple 1502 01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:57,440 principles and very basic chemical 1503 01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,039 compounds 1504 01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:01,119 the the problem is 1505 01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:04,240 that life is so complex 1506 01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:05,680 it's hard to 1507 01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:07,200 imagine how it could have come about 1508 01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:09,440 because it's so complex cells are very 1509 01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:10,640 complex they're made up of all these 1510 01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:12,799 different bits and pieces right there's 1511 01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:15,280 dna which is which is so important it's 1512 01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:17,839 the instruction manual for the cell it 1513 01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:20,480 it makes it so the cells can replicate 1514 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:22,079 and you can make more cells so that's 1515 01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:24,000 very important on the other hand we have 1516 01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,640 proteins proteins are the workhorses of 1517 01:04:30,390 --> 01:04:28,079 the cell they 1518 01:04:31,990 --> 01:04:30,400 they catalyze reactions which just means 1519 01:04:33,029 --> 01:04:32,000 that they make things happen more 1520 01:04:35,910 --> 01:04:33,039 quickly than they would if they were 1521 01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:35,920 just floating around 1522 01:04:40,630 --> 01:04:38,319 now wouldn't it be cool if there is one 1523 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,640 kind of molecule that could do both 1524 01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:41,920 those things 1525 01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,680 it turns out there is 1526 01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:46,079 and it's called rna 1527 01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:48,559 and rna as you might guess from its name 1528 01:04:52,789 --> 01:04:51,520 is kind of similar to dna 1529 01:04:57,670 --> 01:04:52,799 it's kind of like this piece of paper 1530 01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:00,309 but it also does something really cool 1531 01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:03,359 and that it folds itself 1532 01:05:08,470 --> 01:05:05,760 and forms structures 1533 01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,480 like this little bunny rabbit 1534 01:05:12,470 --> 01:05:10,559 and these structures can carry out 1535 01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:12,480 functions 1536 01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:18,480 now i'm not trying to say that rna is a 1537 01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:20,319 bunny rabbit or the the first life 1538 01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:22,559 looked like a bunny rabbit 1539 01:05:27,270 --> 01:05:24,880 what i'm trying to say is that now that 1540 01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:27,280 we know this it's not that hard to 1541 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:28,319 envision 1542 01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:30,160 an rna world 1543 01:05:35,349 --> 01:05:32,720 in which all of the functions of life 1544 01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,359 were carried out by one kind of molecule 1545 01:05:38,710 --> 01:05:37,280 not all kinds all different kinds of 1546 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:38,720 molecules 1547 01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:41,280 and if we can envision that happening 1548 01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,640 on earth 1549 01:05:48,309 --> 01:05:43,680 maybe 1550 01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:48,319 on other worlds right now 1551 01:06:01,990 --> 01:05:59,270 thank you rebecca that was really good 1552 01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:02,000 and i particularly appreciate your prop 1553 01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:04,559 to illustrate that structure can perform 1554 01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:06,319 function that was very nice i appreciate 1555 01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,190 so um 1556 01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:13,039 it's it's a really cool idea about the 1557 01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:16,079 origin of life how how could you test it 1558 01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,079 well we we have done a lot of work to 1559 01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:20,960 test uh what are the capabilities of rna 1560 01:06:25,829 --> 01:06:24,319 what kinds of reactions can it catalyze 1561 01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:25,839 and actually something that i've worked 1562 01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:28,559 on is um how did the first proteins then 1563 01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:30,319 come about you know after that happen 1564 01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,319 because obviously we needed proteins and 1565 01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:35,039 it turns out that rna can actually do 1566 01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:37,039 all of the reactions that are necessary 1567 01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:39,520 to form proteins all by itself in kind 1568 01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:41,520 of different bits and what i'd actually 1569 01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:43,359 really like to do someday is have kind 1570 01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,680 of an rna party and a test tube and see 1571 01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:47,280 if we can actually start you know making 1572 01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:50,880 proteins just with rna 1573 01:06:53,910 --> 01:06:52,480 i i think i don't have anything now i 1574 01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:53,920 think that was really terrific i love i 1575 01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:56,240 love anytime somebody can can do origami 1576 01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:57,520 on stage 1577 01:07:09,349 --> 01:06:58,799 it's all good 1578 01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:12,309 wow 1579 01:07:12,319 --> 01:07:19,029 i'm glad uhura took up communications 1580 01:07:19,039 --> 01:07:26,150 thank you thank you so much 1581 01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:27,910 okay i'm i 1582 01:07:44,630 --> 01:07:39,510 yeah 1583 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,950 studies planetary protection 1584 01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:50,630 after all that's been on there i think 1585 01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:57,349 planetary protection 1586 01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,760 he's going to come up and talk about the 1587 01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,599 true nature 1588 01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:04,079 of self 1589 01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,630 we as a human being take an extreme 1590 01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:18,480 pride in ourselves 1591 01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:20,319 as highly evolved and intelligent 1592 01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:22,560 species on this planet 1593 01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,719 but i want to find out what is the true 1594 01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,120 nature of self because all our research 1595 01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,000 our understanding our findings 1596 01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:32,799 are centric to this self identity or our 1597 01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:34,239 self 1598 01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:36,159 to find out that we have to take a small 1599 01:08:41,590 --> 01:08:39,120 journey a very short journey to the end 1600 01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:41,600 of this known universe 1601 01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:44,080 and we're going to borrow the spaceship 1602 01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:46,960 from michelle can we 1603 01:08:50,950 --> 01:08:48,799 and then we'll start our journey with 1604 01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:50,960 the speed of light and we're going to 1605 01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:53,600 move start moving from our this own 1606 01:08:58,470 --> 01:08:55,279 planet 1607 01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:58,480 within 5 hours and 15 minutes 1608 01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,040 will be the end of our last planet on 1609 01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:03,600 this pluto 1610 01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,759 sorry pluto is not anymore a planet 1611 01:09:08,789 --> 01:09:06,960 right 1612 01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:08,799 damn 1613 01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:11,199 well we'll get over it mr tyson that's 1614 01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:12,080 fine 1615 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,520 we got we're not going to stop there 1616 01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:15,600 anyway we'll continue our journey 1617 01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:18,480 perpendicular and keep moving 1618 01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:20,480 all the stars disappear 1619 01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:22,480 and keep moving 1620 01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:26,480 within 5 000 years we cross the closest 1621 01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:29,920 sun alpha century to our solar system 1622 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:31,679 but we're not going to stop there too 1623 01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:35,040 we'll keep moving and it's not till 100 1624 01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:37,600 000 light years we pass and we can see 1625 01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:40,080 the spiral structure of our own galaxy 1626 01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,159 our milky way 1627 01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:44,239 we're not going to stop there either 1628 01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:46,400 if we keep moving 1629 01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:49,839 every moving star is no more a star it's 1630 01:09:55,110 --> 01:09:52,880 an entire galaxy comprised of billions 1631 01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,120 and billions of stars within it 1632 01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:57,199 and more complex and diverse than each 1633 01:10:01,030 --> 01:09:58,800 other 1634 01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:01,040 one billion year 1635 01:10:05,510 --> 01:10:02,880 5 billion years 1636 01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,520 and after 10 billion years 1637 01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:07,120 we will stop 1638 01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,440 i mean look back where we started 1639 01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:11,520 and when i look back i could see the 1640 01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:16,719 extreme tapestry of this known cosmos 1641 01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:20,000 if i look back and i feel small and 1642 01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:22,719 short there is something wrong with me 1643 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:24,159 i don't feel like that 1644 01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,960 because every carbon nitrogen and oxygen 1645 01:10:29,830 --> 01:10:28,320 in my body 1646 01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:29,840 was born somewhere out there in those 1647 01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,640 distance galaxies and it's within me 1648 01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:34,400 i feel great 1649 01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:38,239 hindus call it as advaita or non-duality 1650 01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:40,480 some call it as singularity and some 1651 01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:42,840 call it as cosmic 1652 01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:45,600 kinship carl sagan understood that and 1653 01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:49,440 that's why he said we are star stuff 1654 01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:52,000 and if we understand this true nature of 1655 01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:52,960 self 1656 01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,320 we can do 1657 01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:56,239 lot of good discoveries 1658 01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,159 and this is why i want to pass this 1659 01:11:02,950 --> 01:11:00,320 message and leave you with this thought 1660 01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,960 but tonight when you go to bed at least 1661 01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:04,159 think once 1662 01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:06,400 what is true nature of self 1663 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,630 judges 1664 01:11:20,630 --> 01:11:18,950 that was uh really lovely and inspiring 1665 01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:20,640 and i liked how you worked the phrase 1666 01:11:29,669 --> 01:11:27,270 thank you parag that was lovely and i 1667 01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:29,679 think it's it's an important concept for 1668 01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:32,640 us to discuss particularly with our 1669 01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:35,440 non-experts in our communities uh that 1670 01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:37,120 we are all 1671 01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:38,800 part of the universe we all live in the 1672 01:11:45,910 --> 01:11:44,229 you've made me feel so much better 1673 01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:45,920 tonight 1674 01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,040 um you know i think one of the things 1675 01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:49,040 that you've done is something that that 1676 01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:51,199 that other people have done here and 1677 01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,199 you've each done it in a really unique 1678 01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:54,800 way which is to 1679 01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:56,640 express scale 1680 01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,239 in in a very different way um you know 1681 01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,920 one did it through height you've done it 1682 01:12:04,950 --> 01:12:04,080 through speed i i think that's that's 1683 01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,960 admirable because i think one of the 1684 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:05,840 things 1685 01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:08,320 especially layman like myself fail to 1686 01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:10,960 understand often is is scope 1687 01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:13,120 of science and i think you did a great 1688 01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:14,640 job in that i have to ask you because we 1689 01:12:18,229 --> 01:12:16,400 have a little bit of time left something 1690 01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:18,239 has nothing to do with your talk but has 1691 01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:19,360 everything to do with what you study 1692 01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:21,199 which is planetary protection which is 1693 01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:23,199 just the coolest thing in the world 1694 01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:25,760 um so what's the what's the 1695 01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:27,360 what's the thing that the planetary 1696 01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:29,520 protection people worry about the most 1697 01:12:32,950 --> 01:12:30,400 sure 1698 01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,960 so planetary protection has two meaning 1699 01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:35,120 i mean two things to worry about one is 1700 01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,199 a forward contamination that means you 1701 01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:39,520 don't want to carry any bugs 1702 01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,600 with you on the spacecraft to other 1703 01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:43,600 planets and you don't want to bring any 1704 01:12:47,590 --> 01:12:46,080 bugs back which we haven't done yet but 1705 01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:47,600 we don't want to bring anything back 1706 01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,400 from other planets to this our own 1707 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:52,560 planet so we make sure that we are not 1708 01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:53,520 carrying 1709 01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:56,800 uh microbes with us on the other planet 1710 01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:58,719 being said that we cannot completely 1711 01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:00,239 sterilize the spacecraft but we make 1712 01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:02,640 sure that it's below a certain threshold 1713 01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,840 that is not going to contaminate the 1714 01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:05,360 other planets 1715 01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,719 i feel safer now so thank you 1716 01:13:16,070 --> 01:13:10,480 thank you 1717 01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:19,110 so i'm star stuff 1718 01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:24,550 where do we go from here 1719 01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:26,400 is that the end 1720 01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:31,590 aha 1721 01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:34,000 i guess i'll put my eyeglasses on i knew 1722 01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:36,080 you were there all the time 1723 01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:42,310 finally we're going to see nicole 1724 01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:44,400 younger 1725 01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:51,440 she's a physicist and she's going to 1726 01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:54,400 deliver presentation entitled 1727 01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,800 i love the smell of evolution in the 1728 01:14:10,229 --> 01:13:58,880 morning 1729 01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:11,750 life is like 1730 01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,719 a garbage dump 1731 01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:16,800 never mind when you hear about boxes of 1732 01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:19,679 chocolates living systems are organized 1733 01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:22,480 like dumps by thinking about a dump we 1734 01:14:26,550 --> 01:14:24,719 can understand why life can evolve why 1735 01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:26,560 we can exist 1736 01:14:36,950 --> 01:14:30,480 picture a dump see the rusty bicycles 1737 01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:40,229 let's give our dump a stench rating 1738 01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:44,080 if the old meatloaf mixes with car oil 1739 01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:46,560 the smell knocks us out and has a rating 1740 01:14:51,030 --> 01:14:47,840 of ten 1741 01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:51,040 if food occupies one bin meddles another 1742 01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:53,600 and so on the smell just turns us pale 1743 01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:56,480 green and has a rating of one 1744 01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:59,360 now picture a primordial soup 1745 01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:02,080 carbon atoms mix with hydrogen oxygen 1746 01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:03,600 and other atoms 1747 01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:06,480 carbon atoms are like milk cartons 1748 01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:09,679 hydrogen is like hamster droppings the 1749 01:15:14,630 --> 01:15:12,640 primordial soup is like a dump where the 1750 01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:14,640 trash mixes 1751 01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:17,040 primordial soups have high stench 1752 01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:18,159 readings 1753 01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:20,400 stench doesn't sound scientific 1754 01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:22,960 physicists say entropy 1755 01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,360 primordial soups have high entropy 1756 01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,040 they're disordered 1757 01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,760 organisms have low entropy 1758 01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,080 the atoms in us are organized into 1759 01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:34,080 molecules and cells 1760 01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:36,800 a cell is like a bin in the dump 1761 01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:38,880 dumps that have bins have low stench 1762 01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,760 ratings organisms that have cells have 1763 01:15:47,189 --> 01:15:43,840 low entropy 1764 01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,199 how can a high entropy disordered 1765 01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:49,520 primordial soup evolve into a low 1766 01:15:55,430 --> 01:15:53,120 entropy ordered organism a physical law 1767 01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:55,440 says that many systems become more 1768 01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:56,800 disordered 1769 01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,440 if we throw more trash in the dump the 1770 01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:01,679 smell won't improve 1771 01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:03,360 right 1772 01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:04,719 wrong 1773 01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,000 if we put clothes pins on our noses and 1774 01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:10,000 organize the dump 1775 01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:15,040 dirty our clothes if we pollute while 1776 01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:17,679 driving to the dump if we create more 1777 01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:20,480 disorder outside the dump than order in 1778 01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:21,440 it 1779 01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:24,560 similarly as life has evolved on earth 1780 01:16:29,590 --> 01:16:27,199 the earth has radiated we've polluted 1781 01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:29,600 outer space with energy 1782 01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:32,159 evolution creates more disorder outside 1783 01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:35,600 living systems than order in them 1784 01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:38,719 evolution can enable organized life to 1785 01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:39,840 form 1786 01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:40,719 we 1787 01:16:45,910 --> 01:16:43,120 can exist 1788 01:16:46,830 --> 01:16:45,920 and life is like a garbage dump 1789 01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:46,840 we 1790 01:17:03,669 --> 01:16:48,560 smell 1791 01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:05,750 judges 1792 01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:07,040 nicole i remember 1793 01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:09,199 seeing you in dc and and 1794 01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,199 and wondering how you can keep up such 1795 01:17:15,669 --> 01:17:13,600 energy uh it's amazing and especially 1796 01:17:18,870 --> 01:17:15,679 given the fact it's not easy to go to go 1797 01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,880 last um so it's really it's great and 1798 01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:20,480 and i think one of the things you've 1799 01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:24,719 done really well is you've painted a 1800 01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:27,040 a picture a visual or i guess this time 1801 01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:29,760 an olfactory 1802 01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:31,840 picture in all of our heads and i think 1803 01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,440 a great science communicator great 1804 01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:35,280 communicator has to be able to paint a 1805 01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:37,199 great picture and drag the audience 1806 01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:40,320 along so great job on that 1807 01:17:43,430 --> 01:17:42,000 thank you nicole that was wonderful and 1808 01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,440 when you're rich and famous your 1809 01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:44,960 signature perfume will be called 1810 01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:50,470 and i'm going to take this opportunity 1811 01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,719 because we won't have an opportunity to 1812 01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:54,719 speak with all the contestants once we 1813 01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:57,199 go into our chambers but i've seen you 1814 01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,760 all either live or recorded and you've 1815 01:18:03,270 --> 01:18:01,920 all gotten better you've all gained more 1816 01:18:04,950 --> 01:18:03,280 confidence you all came into this 1817 01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:04,960 competition with a lot of confidence it 1818 01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:06,560 takes a lot of confidence to get up 1819 01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,880 there in front of strangers and and do 1820 01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:10,800 your thing you've gotten better at it 1821 01:18:14,229 --> 01:18:12,560 you're more comfortable and all of you 1822 01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:14,239 who competed 1823 01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:16,080 and have not gone up on stage tonight 1824 01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:18,719 i'm sure you're all getting better 1825 01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:20,320 and the learning curve has been 1826 01:18:26,070 --> 01:18:24,159 wonderful to observe so thank you all 1827 01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:26,080 i can pre i completely agree with what 1828 01:18:29,830 --> 01:18:29,040 uh linda said uh you're you're all just 1829 01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:29,840 uh 1830 01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,640 so 1831 01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:32,880 wonderful you uh have all blown us away 1832 01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:35,199 and your energy is terrific especially 1833 01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:37,520 in in a large room like this it it's 1834 01:18:42,390 --> 01:18:41,040 just wonderful you you fill the hall um 1835 01:18:44,709 --> 01:18:42,400 quick question since i'm the one with 1836 01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:44,719 the annoying nerdy questions because 1837 01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:50,149 that 1838 01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:52,960 you're saying stuff with high entropy 1839 01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:55,199 is stinky and i feel like there's 1840 01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:57,360 something really profound there but i'm 1841 01:19:03,030 --> 01:18:58,560 not sure why 1842 01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:03,040 why do high entropy things smell 1843 01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:05,120 just to be certain 1844 01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:08,880 the smell is part of the analogy 1845 01:19:15,750 --> 01:19:11,360 i'm not saying that we smell i trust you 1846 01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:18,070 what i'm trying to say is that 1847 01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:20,560 many physicists like to explain entropy 1848 01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:23,120 in terms of disorder 1849 01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:25,199 something that is a high entropy system 1850 01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:28,000 is like a disordered garbage dump and 1851 01:19:33,030 --> 01:19:30,480 just like a disordered garbage dump has 1852 01:19:35,030 --> 01:19:33,040 a high stench rating 1853 01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:35,040 a high entropy 1854 01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:36,480 organic system 1855 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:38,640 has high entropy 1856 01:19:43,750 --> 01:19:41,120 a sort of disordered 1857 01:19:45,590 --> 01:19:43,760 organic system has high entropy so i'm 1858 01:20:04,070 --> 01:19:45,600 saying that the stench is like the 1859 01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:08,229 i didn't know that i was so complex 1860 01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:09,920 and beautiful 1861 01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:12,800 until i heard all of you 1862 01:20:18,229 --> 01:20:15,840 and now i'm going home on a high energy 1863 01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,239 level i thank you all you're just 1864 01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:20,159 incredible 1865 01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:21,760 judges 1866 01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:25,120 you've got your work cut out for you 1867 01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:27,840 and i don't envy you 1868 01:20:35,189 --> 01:20:33,430 um 1869 01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:35,199 that ends 1870 01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:37,760 the competition and the judges are going 1871 01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:39,440 to retire to 1872 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:41,920 commissary 1873 01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:47,990 so i know what you're all thinking 1874 01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:48,960 you're all thinking that they have a 1875 01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:51,600 really tough job to do right 1876 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:53,360 how about a big handful yeah 1877 01:20:56,320 --> 01:21:01,590 judges thank you 1878 01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:02,870 so you might be thinking that they've 1879 01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,480 got a really tough job but you've got 1880 01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:06,639 the same job there are note cards that 1881 01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:08,159 we left on your chairs you came in and 1882 01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:10,880 little golf pencils you got to vote okay 1883 01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:11,840 we're going to do a people's choice 1884 01:21:16,070 --> 01:21:14,560 award for one of these 11 contestants so 1885 01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:16,080 fill them out hand them to the aisles 1886 01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:17,040 we're going to volunteers come and 1887 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,040 collect them and while you're doing that 1888 01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:20,560 i'm going to invite up the director of 1889 01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,159 development for the cheltenham science 1890 01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:24,560 festival's stephen burgess and steve is 1891 01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,679 going to talk to you a little bit about 1892 01:21:30,629 --> 01:21:28,320 the history of fame lab so please 1893 01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:30,639 welcome steve to the stage and continue 1894 01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:32,480 to vote on your favorite choice can we 1895 01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,320 do this ladies and gentlemen before you 1896 01:21:40,149 --> 01:21:36,960 leave can we get our ten contestants to 1897 01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:40,159 stand and turn around because each one 1898 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:08,629 all right but you can only pick one 1899 01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:11,270 no thank you sean 1900 01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,360 while you're all uh making your hard 1901 01:22:18,229 --> 01:22:15,360 choices i'll give you a little bit of a 1902 01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:18,239 history of uh a fame lab but first you 1903 01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:20,239 know i would like to thank sean and the 1904 01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:23,040 other teams at uh at nasa 1905 01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:25,600 uh without their uh incredible energy 1906 01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:27,040 and commitment we would have never got 1907 01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:29,520 this far in such a short amount of time 1908 01:22:32,470 --> 01:22:31,280 to put something together in less than 1909 01:22:33,910 --> 01:22:32,480 six months 1910 01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:33,920 having been through many fame lab 1911 01:22:37,910 --> 01:22:35,679 competitions elsewhere in the world is 1912 01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:37,920 remarkable and it is down really to the 1913 01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:39,440 energy of the three 1914 01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:46,070 fame lab was started uh in the uk in 1915 01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:47,760 2005 1916 01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:48,639 so 1917 01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:50,480 it's not exactly out of the primordial 1918 01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:51,600 soup 1919 01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:52,400 in here 1920 01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:54,719 relatively young 1921 01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:58,480 and it was started for one reason only 1922 01:23:01,590 --> 01:23:00,480 at that point and that was to find new 1923 01:23:03,189 --> 01:23:01,600 talent 1924 01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,199 to feed into the cheltenham science 1925 01:23:06,390 --> 01:23:04,639 festival 1926 01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,400 which was a venture of the the 1927 01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:08,320 cheltenham festivals group which 1928 01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,880 produces jazz music literature and 1929 01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:12,080 science 1930 01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:14,080 sometimes a strange combination in our 1931 01:23:19,590 --> 01:23:16,719 primordial soup of having science in an 1932 01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:19,600 arts organization but in the end 1933 01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:21,360 uh arts and science is all part of 1934 01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,360 culture and i think the more that we 1935 01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:25,360 actually get the two sets of disciplines 1936 01:23:29,430 --> 01:23:26,960 working together i think the better 1937 01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:29,440 we'll all be at communicating 1938 01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:32,480 uh so fame lab was basically set up as a 1939 01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:36,000 talent pool uh a pipeline if you like to 1940 01:23:41,110 --> 01:23:38,560 feed into the into the science festival 1941 01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:41,120 knowing that there was a shortage of top 1942 01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:43,520 communicators even in the uk where we do 1943 01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:47,199 have a history of science communication 1944 01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,840 for that uh what soon became apparent is 1945 01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:51,280 we'd actually sort of touched a bit of a 1946 01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:53,760 nerve uh with uh with fame lab and it 1947 01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:56,239 soon got to be noticed elsewhere 1948 01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:57,840 uh so it was a case of sort of light the 1949 01:24:01,830 --> 01:24:00,000 blue touch paper and stand well back and 1950 01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:01,840 we were somewhat surprised at the 1951 01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:05,040 explosion of interest in operating fame 1952 01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,639 lab 1953 01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:08,239 on a global basis we couldn't have done 1954 01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:09,920 it without the support of the british 1955 01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:10,960 council 1956 01:24:14,950 --> 01:24:12,880 who are a part government organization 1957 01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:14,960 who operate in many many countries 1958 01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:16,639 around the world 1959 01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:18,719 they helped us take the the family 1960 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:19,840 competition 1961 01:24:24,870 --> 01:24:22,719 uh in from an infrastructure perspective 1962 01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,880 like we have with nasa here it's very 1963 01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,239 very important that we have people on 1964 01:24:31,030 --> 01:24:28,320 the ground who are committed who can 1965 01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:31,040 actually work with the local groups uh 1966 01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:33,679 to put these competitions on 1967 01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:36,639 and now it's running from israel to hong 1968 01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:39,520 kong from lithuania and poland 1969 01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:42,880 uh down to south africa and of course 1970 01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,679 with nasa and a small group in 1971 01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:47,520 switzerland called cern i'm not exactly 1972 01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:49,120 sure what they do 1973 01:24:52,149 --> 01:24:50,320 but uh 1974 01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,159 we're also very proud to be able to work 1975 01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:54,320 with with them 1976 01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:56,480 so fame lab basically 1977 01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,480 is the future of science communication 1978 01:25:02,629 --> 01:25:00,639 in many areas a lot of countries that we 1979 01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:02,639 work in they've never really done 1980 01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:04,960 science communication it's always been 1981 01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:07,440 the professors talking to the people and 1982 01:25:11,510 --> 01:25:09,920 not listening to the people and no 1983 01:25:13,030 --> 01:25:11,520 dialogue with them 1984 01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:13,040 so for us it's all about public 1985 01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:15,440 engagement it's getting organizations 1986 01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:16,800 and individuals 1987 01:25:21,350 --> 01:25:19,040 to take science seriously and the fact 1988 01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,360 that people aren't stupid they know when 1989 01:25:26,390 --> 01:25:23,679 uh the truth is being told uh you just 1990 01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:26,400 have to explain it in creative ways and 1991 01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,400 these guys today have done a fantastic 1992 01:25:31,350 --> 01:25:30,560 job i've learned a lot i've seen a lot 1993 01:25:33,030 --> 01:25:31,360 of 1994 01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:33,040 fame like competitions over the last 1995 01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,440 couple of years and they're very very 1996 01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,040 talented group 1997 01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:39,040 so fame lab really is 1998 01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:40,400 breaking borders 1999 01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:42,000 uh it's going to go into many more 2000 01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:43,679 countries over the next 2001 01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,239 couple of years uh hopefully into india 2002 01:25:50,629 --> 01:25:48,560 into china in brazil 2003 01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:50,639 uh in india it will be an interesting 2004 01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,440 one being a competition driven 2005 01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,440 country i think letting fame lab off in 2006 01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:57,520 there will be very very interesting 2007 01:26:03,430 --> 01:26:00,239 so again many many thanks we appreciate 2008 01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:03,440 all your help and uh and uh an interest 2009 01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:05,120 and i'll hand you back to sean we'll 2010 01:26:08,950 --> 01:26:06,560 finish off the rest and of course the 2011 01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:08,960 main act and me being on the same stage 2012 01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:10,560 as nichelle that is 2013 01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:12,960 that is just it that 2014 01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:20,390 so we have one more speaker this evening 2015 01:26:24,070 --> 01:26:22,480 and she is going to not be limited to 2016 01:26:26,070 --> 01:26:24,080 three minutes please join me in 2017 01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:26,080 re-welcoming miss michelle nichols to 2018 01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:27,600 the stage 2019 01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:29,360 thank you very much 2020 01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:34,870 wow 2021 01:26:39,669 --> 01:26:37,280 i don't know what to say after all of 2022 01:27:01,750 --> 01:26:39,679 this but i know that my brain 2023 01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:05,110 the magic that you have brought to 2024 01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:08,639 science and the communication 2025 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:16,790 communicate 2026 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:23,270 so brilliantly so 2027 01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,149 so immediately 2028 01:27:30,149 --> 01:27:28,320 i want to thank you each each and every 2029 01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:30,159 one of you 2030 01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:36,950 when i decided what i wanted to be i was 2031 01:27:41,270 --> 01:27:39,440 a very very young 2032 01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:41,280 girl 2033 01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:47,990 i always wanted to be everything 2034 01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:49,520 i 2035 01:27:58,070 --> 01:27:54,960 ballet 2036 01:28:03,750 --> 01:27:58,080 and then to afro-cuban and modern and 2037 01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:05,350 and acting 2038 01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,800 was just 2039 01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:08,400 a natural thing 2040 01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:09,840 with me 2041 01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:12,080 and i see that with you 2042 01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:16,080 that what you put what possesses you is 2043 01:28:21,189 --> 01:28:18,719 a natural part of you it's just 2044 01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:21,199 wonderful to behold 2045 01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:23,199 and i think 2046 01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:30,390 wonderful career the ups and the downs 2047 01:28:34,390 --> 01:28:33,360 and the in-betweens and the sideways and 2048 01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:34,400 the 2049 01:28:41,910 --> 01:28:37,760 great blowouts have all added to who i 2050 01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:41,920 am they all add to who you are 2051 01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:47,990 and i give thanks to every up and down 2052 01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:50,400 moment of my life 2053 01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:53,360 because it has been a long and varied 2054 01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:54,880 life 2055 01:29:02,550 --> 01:28:57,600 and i'd like 2056 01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,070 and i don't say that facetiously 2057 01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:08,880 i don't think that it's impossible 2058 01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:11,920 because we've come such a long ways 2059 01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:17,590 40 to 60 being 2060 01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:19,600 old 2061 01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:23,760 we're 2062 01:29:33,430 --> 01:29:31,430 we don't have time to grow old 2063 01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:33,440 we've got too much to do 2064 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,950 i always knew what i wanted to do 2065 01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:49,030 as i said 2066 01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:51,840 and i was doing 2067 01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:53,679 and i was 2068 01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:55,600 invited i've traveled all over the world 2069 01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:57,840 well maybe not all over the world but 2070 01:30:00,790 --> 01:29:58,960 um 2071 01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:00,800 pretty much 2072 01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:02,159 and i had 2073 01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:04,560 been in london 2074 01:30:11,430 --> 01:30:08,800 and i had decided i had never seen paris 2075 01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:11,440 and i'd been to london several times but 2076 01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:13,840 always had to get back right away now i 2077 01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:16,159 had nothing to do really really that was 2078 01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:19,360 going to keep me and i went to gay parry 2079 01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:22,320 and i when i got there and friend met 2080 01:30:27,990 --> 01:30:25,679 friends there i said this is 2081 01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,000 the beginning of my home this is where 2082 01:30:32,790 --> 01:30:30,719 i'm going to be for the rest of my life 2083 01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:32,800 this is where i'm going to express 2084 01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:35,440 myself until i got a phone call from my 2085 01:30:44,310 --> 01:30:41,110 and he said come home they're doing star 2086 01:30:50,470 --> 01:30:48,310 i didn't know what a star trek was 2087 01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:50,480 i said i'm not coming home 2088 01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:52,480 i'm sending for my son 2089 01:30:57,189 --> 01:30:54,800 and my little son and we're go i'm going 2090 01:31:02,709 --> 01:30:57,199 to live in europe and i'm going he says 2091 01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,270 and he thought i knew what star trek was 2092 01:31:10,229 --> 01:31:07,920 but i really didn't 2093 01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:10,239 and the thing was gene roddenberry three 2094 01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:12,480 years before star trek had given me my 2095 01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:13,679 first 2096 01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:16,400 guest star billing in a show that he had 2097 01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:19,679 called the lieutenant with gary lockwood 2098 01:31:25,590 --> 01:31:20,960 and 2099 01:31:26,950 --> 01:31:25,600 nothing happened 2100 01:31:29,350 --> 01:31:26,960 and 2101 01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:29,360 my work was always 2102 01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:30,480 in europe 2103 01:31:36,390 --> 01:31:34,560 and i loved it and i was not coming home 2104 01:31:39,030 --> 01:31:36,400 and then he made me an offer i couldn't 2105 01:31:43,270 --> 01:31:40,229 he said 2106 01:31:45,910 --> 01:31:43,280 you there'll be a first-class round-trip 2107 01:31:47,430 --> 01:31:45,920 ticket on air france or wherever you 2108 01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:47,440 want it 2109 01:31:54,870 --> 01:31:50,719 you come here and go to this interview 2110 01:31:56,310 --> 01:31:54,880 and if you don't get it you can be back 2111 01:31:58,629 --> 01:31:56,320 in europe 2112 01:31:59,669 --> 01:31:58,639 in less than a week and the ticket is on 2113 01:32:00,709 --> 01:31:59,679 me 2114 01:32:02,709 --> 01:32:00,719 i went 2115 01:32:04,790 --> 01:32:02,719 hmm 2116 01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:04,800 i can go home and get my son and bring 2117 01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:08,400 him back and won't cost me anything 2118 01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:12,320 but i didn't agree very fast and he said 2119 01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:18,470 i said okay deal 2120 01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:21,120 well in the meantime having lived in 2121 01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:22,480 europe for 2122 01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:24,080 some time 2123 01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:27,199 enough to say this is where i want to be 2124 01:32:32,070 --> 01:32:29,120 i had um 2125 01:32:34,870 --> 01:32:32,080 glamorized myself become very open don't 2126 01:32:38,629 --> 01:32:37,030 i had cut my hair and i wore it in a 2127 01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:38,639 natural 2128 01:32:42,629 --> 01:32:41,440 and i wore it short in the back 2129 01:32:46,149 --> 01:32:42,639 and i 2130 01:32:49,510 --> 01:32:46,159 had straight sideburns 2131 01:32:52,629 --> 01:32:49,520 and a pointed bang 2132 01:32:54,870 --> 01:32:52,639 and a high natural 2133 01:32:58,470 --> 01:32:54,880 and someone had taken me to where i 2134 01:33:02,550 --> 01:33:00,870 designer clothes for a lot less than no 2135 01:33:03,830 --> 01:33:02,560 jobs my phone 2136 01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:03,840 and uh 2137 01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:05,760 when i came back 2138 01:33:13,110 --> 01:33:09,520 i went into them thusly 2139 01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:13,120 with my dior suit on and my hair 2140 01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:20,470 the office where other girls were 2141 01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:23,030 seating waiting to go in 2142 01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:24,560 and they looked up at me and they're 2143 01:33:29,189 --> 01:33:26,080 reading the scripts and they looked up 2144 01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:34,149 and they looked at each other and went 2145 01:33:38,709 --> 01:33:36,629 because you see actors going out for a 2146 01:33:41,430 --> 01:33:38,719 role 2147 01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:41,440 god forbid anybody thinks they really 2148 01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:43,440 really really need this role so we 2149 01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:45,600 usually go out in 2150 01:33:49,669 --> 01:33:47,040 slacks or 2151 01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:49,679 jeans and a sweater and you know we 2152 01:33:57,350 --> 01:33:51,199 really 2153 01:34:01,189 --> 01:33:59,110 and here i am 2154 01:34:04,229 --> 01:34:01,199 walking in like 2155 01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:04,239 it's important 2156 01:34:08,470 --> 01:34:05,840 and i had 2157 01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:08,480 i always read when i'm 2158 01:34:13,510 --> 01:34:11,120 i read a lot but i always read a big 2159 01:34:16,229 --> 01:34:13,520 book i carry a big book especially if 2160 01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:16,239 i'm flying across 2161 01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:19,280 the waters to another country 2162 01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:23,120 and i was reading this one book 2163 01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:25,679 which was a bestseller and i was about 2164 01:34:30,830 --> 01:34:29,520 three a quart a quarter of them 2165 01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:30,840 of the book 2166 01:34:35,750 --> 01:34:32,800 through and 2167 01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:35,760 i came in with the book 2168 01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:36,639 and 2169 01:34:42,709 --> 01:34:40,000 they took me in front of the other girls 2170 01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:42,719 who were there because i told them that 2171 01:34:54,629 --> 01:34:51,750 which really isn't done 2172 01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:54,639 if you're serious about getting the role 2173 01:34:58,950 --> 01:34:56,320 they would have told you 2174 01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:58,960 well go ahead and you know when you find 2175 01:35:03,109 --> 01:35:01,440 time come again they said oh of course 2176 01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:03,119 miss nichols 2177 01:35:10,229 --> 01:35:06,800 and i thought that felt good yes 2178 01:35:11,669 --> 01:35:10,239 so i walked in with this big book 2179 01:35:17,030 --> 01:35:11,679 and 2180 01:35:26,310 --> 01:35:20,550 the producer the director 2181 01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:28,149 and they looked up at me and they looked 2182 01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:30,080 at each other and they said 2183 01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:32,159 they almost got up 2184 01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:33,040 you know 2185 01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:37,440 hello miss nichols um oh come sit down 2186 01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:43,030 and i 2187 01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:45,199 thanked them you know 2188 01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:48,639 and they looked at my hair and they 2189 01:35:53,760 --> 01:36:00,310 leather shoes and bag to match 2190 01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:03,270 my wife has that book 2191 01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:06,719 she just bought it she's raving over it 2192 01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:08,960 another one said yes i have i've just 2193 01:36:13,669 --> 01:36:11,280 bought it i i just haven't gotten a 2194 01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:13,679 chance to open it everybody knew about 2195 01:36:26,629 --> 01:36:15,760 the book 2196 01:36:28,550 --> 01:36:26,639 and 25 minutes later they said maybe we 2197 01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:28,560 should find out what miss nichols has 2198 01:36:35,990 --> 01:36:32,880 come here for would you please read 2199 01:36:40,629 --> 01:36:36,000 oh i'd be delighted to 2200 01:36:43,430 --> 01:36:42,390 bones 2201 01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:43,440 kirk 2202 01:36:49,109 --> 01:36:46,880 and somebody named spock 2203 01:36:53,030 --> 01:36:49,119 and they said and it was a wonderful 2204 01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:53,040 long three-page long scene and so they 2205 01:36:59,830 --> 01:36:55,760 said would you mind reading the role of 2206 01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:01,990 i said i don't mind reading 2207 01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:04,800 either any one of them they're wonderful 2208 01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:07,199 to him in my mind 2209 01:37:12,790 --> 01:37:10,480 and so i ran and i said okay 2210 01:37:14,390 --> 01:37:12,800 um and look through and through and so 2211 01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:14,400 and they said take your time and i said 2212 01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:15,920 i'm going to assume 2213 01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:18,000 i said tell me something about this 2214 01:37:24,870 --> 01:37:20,560 character spock 2215 01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,790 and they all looked at each other and 2216 01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:28,880 they said 2217 01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:31,840 don't you know anything about 2218 01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:33,760 this show we're doing 2219 01:37:43,510 --> 01:37:42,550 and they said oh 2220 01:37:44,950 --> 01:37:43,520 well 2221 01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:44,960 the first 2222 01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:47,920 pilot didn't sell and we're redoing the 2223 01:37:53,750 --> 01:37:50,719 pilot and we've decided to put a new 2224 01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:53,760 character in the communications officer 2225 01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,480 i said oh spock is a communication so 2226 01:38:03,270 --> 01:37:58,560 he's no no no no 2227 01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:04,950 it's a male 2228 01:38:13,109 --> 01:38:06,719 i said oh 2229 01:38:19,030 --> 01:38:16,390 could it be a female 2230 01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:19,040 and they said 2231 01:38:24,390 --> 01:38:21,520 well yes but linda namoy would not like 2232 01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:26,629 ah a name 2233 01:38:31,430 --> 01:38:28,800 so i said well 2234 01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:31,440 why don't you tell me if 2235 01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:34,880 can i pretend it is a female i can 2236 01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:37,040 if you tell me the characteristics of 2237 01:38:43,910 --> 01:38:40,560 the character i'll 2238 01:38:45,030 --> 01:38:43,920 utilize those and be give you this 2239 01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,040 character 2240 01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:47,360 and you'll know if i can act and if you 2241 01:38:51,430 --> 01:38:50,000 really want me in that 2242 01:38:53,590 --> 01:38:51,440 for the role 2243 01:38:56,390 --> 01:38:53,600 and they said fair enough so they told 2244 01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:56,400 me how this character was 2245 01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:59,119 um 2246 01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:00,400 had 2247 01:39:03,990 --> 01:39:02,159 an oster 2248 01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:04,000 characteristic 2249 01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:05,280 um 2250 01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:08,800 all the things that you now know 2251 01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:10,639 of that character 2252 01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:12,960 and somebody said he has green blood and 2253 01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:19,510 well i can't do green blood pointed ears 2254 01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:21,920 but i can do the characteristics 2255 01:39:28,390 --> 01:39:25,280 and so i read for the character 2256 01:39:30,550 --> 01:39:28,400 and i went through one page and 2257 01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,560 they had me keep going whoever was 2258 01:39:34,229 --> 01:39:32,480 reading the other characters 2259 01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:34,239 i went to the second label they took me 2260 01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:34,880 all 2261 01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:38,480 and they said 2262 01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:41,280 wow they don't usually do that juicy as 2263 01:39:45,109 --> 01:39:42,719 you know 2264 01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:45,119 and um 2265 01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,119 and so they said 2266 01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:50,400 thank you miss nichols for coming in 2267 01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:51,199 and 2268 01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:52,639 so i 2269 01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:54,960 said thank you and they said and the 2270 01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:57,679 director said and miss nichols would you 2271 01:40:02,070 --> 01:39:58,880 wait 2272 01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:02,080 oh that is such a good sign 2273 01:40:06,830 --> 01:40:04,400 it means that you're in contention with 2274 01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,840 someone else that you're you're up for 2275 01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:08,400 it 2276 01:40:16,470 --> 01:40:14,310 and so 2277 01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:16,480 i came out and all the girls were 2278 01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:25,510 it only took about five minutes to read 2279 01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:27,119 the thing 2280 01:40:31,669 --> 01:40:29,920 but the rest was on this book 2281 01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:31,679 so 2282 01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:34,400 peg uh penny took the the secretary took 2283 01:40:37,750 --> 01:40:36,320 me into a little ante room and said 2284 01:40:39,990 --> 01:40:37,760 would you wait 2285 01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:40,000 so i went and i picked out my book and i 2286 01:40:47,270 --> 01:40:42,960 curled up on the sofa and i was reading 2287 01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:47,280 my book and the director about 2288 01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:49,520 an hour later 2289 01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,800 peeked his head in and said 2290 01:41:00,550 --> 01:40:54,880 he's looking for somebody what are you 2291 01:41:04,229 --> 01:41:02,550 well i've got a paid ticket back to 2292 01:41:06,149 --> 01:41:04,239 europe 2293 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,159 and i said 2294 01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:08,320 you told me to wait 2295 01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:09,440 he said 2296 01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,040 oh 2297 01:41:15,189 --> 01:41:13,360 didn't anybody tell you 2298 01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:15,199 i'm picking my stuff i said it's quite 2299 01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:17,440 all right he says no you had it when you 2300 01:41:23,270 --> 01:41:19,360 walked in the door come on let's go to 2301 01:41:28,790 --> 01:41:26,870 and then i got a call for 2302 01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:28,800 well i don't have to payment 2303 01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:30,560 now i've got to pay my 2304 01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:32,719 agent back 2305 01:41:38,310 --> 01:41:35,360 because i've got the role 2306 01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:38,320 and uh of course it's the best 2307 01:41:46,790 --> 01:41:41,119 payback i ever did 2308 01:41:48,149 --> 01:41:46,800 but now i get a call for for fitting 2309 01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:48,159 and 2310 01:41:57,109 --> 01:41:54,880 gene roddenberry called down he knows 2311 01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:57,119 you're having a fitting he wants you to 2312 01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:58,800 come to his office 2313 01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:01,040 so i go to his office after the fitting 2314 01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:05,270 with my book 2315 01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:09,119 and he said it's about that book 2316 01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:12,480 i said yes he said come on let's go have 2317 01:42:17,350 --> 01:42:13,520 lunch 2318 01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:17,360 and we 2319 01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:18,960 went to lunch and was 2320 01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:21,280 not very many people there 2321 01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:22,960 so he said well let's celebrate and he 2322 01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:25,280 bought me a bottle a glass a bottle of 2323 01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:28,480 champagne to celebrate my 2324 01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,400 getting the role 2325 01:42:35,750 --> 01:42:33,119 and so he said by the way i never told 2326 01:42:38,470 --> 01:42:35,760 anybody that i knew you or had 2327 01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:38,480 if they didn't know you had a role three 2328 01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:39,600 years ago 2329 01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:42,639 you got it on your own 2330 01:42:47,590 --> 01:42:45,280 and that i was delighted so he said i 2331 01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:47,600 want to talk about that book 2332 01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:49,600 he said it's something about the 2333 01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:52,320 character the name of that book that i'd 2334 01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:54,159 like to use 2335 01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:57,199 for your character but it's a little bit 2336 01:43:02,390 --> 01:42:58,719 too harsh 2337 01:43:04,629 --> 01:43:02,400 and the name of the book was uhuru 2338 01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:04,639 which was a beautiful treatise 2339 01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:06,000 on 2340 01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,920 africa 2341 01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,880 and 2342 01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:10,800 which i had explained to all the guys in 2343 01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,639 the room what it was about and they were 2344 01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:14,400 fascinated 2345 01:43:19,109 --> 01:43:16,719 and he said but i'd like to 2346 01:43:21,910 --> 01:43:19,119 so i picked up my champagne now that i 2347 01:43:23,109 --> 01:43:21,920 have a job 2348 01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:23,119 and 2349 01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:33,119 soften the end of it instead of an uhuru 2350 01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:36,080 put an a on the end of it uhura 2351 01:43:38,950 --> 01:43:37,440 jean said 2352 01:43:41,109 --> 01:43:38,960 that's it 2353 01:43:42,870 --> 01:43:41,119 that's exactly what i want now i know 2354 01:43:47,830 --> 01:43:42,880 where you're from you're from the united 2355 01:43:51,750 --> 01:43:49,189 are part of 2356 01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:51,760 starfleet command you've had a whole 2357 01:43:56,550 --> 01:43:54,000 background and he just went on and he 2358 01:44:00,149 --> 01:43:56,560 was so delighted 2359 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:01,030 and 2360 01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:02,320 actually 2361 01:44:10,310 --> 01:44:06,880 that is the the way uhura got her name 2362 01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:10,320 and the way i got the role 2363 01:44:13,030 --> 01:44:12,000 it tells you 2364 01:44:14,229 --> 01:44:13,040 that 2365 01:44:15,189 --> 01:44:14,239 you really 2366 01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:15,199 never 2367 01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:16,080 know 2368 01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:17,840 in life 2369 01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:19,920 with all that you know and all that 2370 01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:23,280 you've done or not done 2371 01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:25,360 what's going 2372 01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:28,000 to happen 2373 01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:30,639 with all that you know 2374 01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:39,910 on interviews and didn't get them all 2375 01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:42,239 those years 2376 01:44:49,510 --> 01:44:46,960 suddenly every experience in my life 2377 01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:49,520 took fire 2378 01:44:55,109 --> 01:44:52,000 and allowed me to create 2379 01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:55,119 this wonderful character i 2380 01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:58,000 i don't call it me 2381 01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:00,000 i call it her 2382 01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:02,960 because she is another character in my 2383 01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:04,159 life 2384 01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:06,080 and all that you know 2385 01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:09,119 will be the same you can never undo what 2386 01:45:11,590 --> 01:45:10,480 you know 2387 01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:11,600 you can 2388 01:45:14,719 --> 01:45:18,629 do something else 2389 01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:21,350 but what you have no one can take away 2390 01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:22,880 from you 2391 01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:25,920 and it will enrich your life 2392 01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:26,960 as 2393 01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:33,679 for many years to come 2394 01:45:44,709 --> 01:45:35,440 i 2395 01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:44,719 by not only your knowledge 2396 01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:47,600 but how you've absorbed it 2397 01:45:51,109 --> 01:45:50,159 how you've presented 2398 01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:51,119 us 2399 01:45:54,950 --> 01:45:54,080 with an insight i can feel 2400 01:46:03,750 --> 01:45:54,960 you 2401 01:46:06,790 --> 01:46:03,760 knowledge and made it part 2402 01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:06,800 of your life of who you are 2403 01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:08,639 and so 2404 01:46:14,550 --> 01:46:11,520 today i want to tell you that 2405 01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,560 each and every one of you 2406 01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:16,480 are winners 2407 01:46:20,950 --> 01:46:19,440 because you proved it on this stage 2408 01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,960 today 2409 01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:22,000 and 2410 01:46:26,550 --> 01:46:25,280 sometimes we only get one chance to 2411 01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:26,560 prove 2412 01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:28,400 who we are 2413 01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:31,600 but who you really are what you own you 2414 01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:32,880 own that 2415 01:46:38,790 --> 01:46:35,600 and can never be taken away from you and 2416 01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:38,800 what you've given us the insight of how 2417 01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,830 i'll never forget it 2418 01:46:50,709 --> 01:46:47,920 and you'll never forget it 2419 01:46:52,629 --> 01:46:50,719 because you got to demonstrate it you 2420 01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:52,639 probably even 2421 01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:53,520 yet 2422 01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:01,510 the jewel that you just received today 2423 01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:03,920 to stand on stage 2424 01:47:09,189 --> 01:47:06,840 and open yourself 2425 01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:09,199 up each 2426 01:47:12,149 --> 01:47:09,920 in 2427 01:47:14,470 --> 01:47:12,159 such 2428 01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:14,480 diverse and unique 2429 01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:16,960 ways 2430 01:47:19,830 --> 01:47:17,679 and 2431 01:47:21,590 --> 01:47:19,840 those of you who are still in the 2432 01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:21,600 audience who were 2433 01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:24,960 up for this and anyone 2434 01:47:34,870 --> 01:47:33,430 we have jewels within us 2435 01:47:37,910 --> 01:47:34,880 that we 2436 01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:37,920 don't even realize yet 2437 01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:40,080 you have knowledge 2438 01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:46,310 well 2439 01:47:50,390 --> 01:47:49,040 it's what i do 2440 01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,400 it pays my 2441 01:47:55,109 --> 01:47:52,719 bills 2442 01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,119 or i'm glad to be a scientist or i'm 2443 01:47:59,270 --> 01:47:57,600 glad to be working i'm glad to be a 2444 01:48:03,430 --> 01:47:59,280 secretariat 2445 01:48:14,229 --> 01:48:08,229 affects another being 2446 01:48:16,390 --> 01:48:14,239 something grows from there 2447 01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:16,400 how i 2448 01:48:20,229 --> 01:48:19,199 being grand and 2449 01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:20,239 being 2450 01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:21,280 came 2451 01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:23,760 and created that rule 2452 01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:29,750 did something 2453 01:48:32,709 --> 01:48:31,199 and i had 2454 01:48:35,510 --> 01:48:32,719 many 2455 01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,790 come out of it 2456 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:43,350 the first interracial kiss 2457 01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:45,669 the first black actress to have a 2458 01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:53,430 there's so there are so many firsts 2459 01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:55,360 and one of the 2460 01:49:02,870 --> 01:48:58,239 wonderful firsts 2461 01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:07,430 i came to 2462 01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:12,070 to be asked by nasa at nasa headquarters 2463 01:49:18,550 --> 01:49:15,679 to come and assist them 2464 01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,560 come on board and assist them i said in 2465 01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:21,119 recruiting the first women 2466 01:49:25,750 --> 01:49:23,840 and minority astronauts for the space 2467 01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:25,760 shuttle program 2468 01:49:30,470 --> 01:49:28,320 all that i'm telling you led me up to 2469 01:49:36,189 --> 01:49:30,480 that 2470 01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:36,199 it led me here and to many other 2471 01:49:41,350 --> 01:49:39,840 relationships with nasa 2472 01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:41,360 so 2473 01:49:52,070 --> 01:49:47,910 or created 2474 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,990 an astronaut 2475 01:50:01,109 --> 01:49:59,109 i found astronauts 2476 01:50:04,229 --> 01:50:01,119 and i found nasa 2477 01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:04,239 and whenever nasa asked me 2478 01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:07,679 to come and be part of 2479 01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:10,400 i know it's another star in the sky 2480 01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:13,679 another first i get to be here with you 2481 01:50:21,990 --> 01:50:18,400 and this is another wondrous wonderful 2482 01:50:24,790 --> 01:50:22,000 and i thank you all moment in my life 2483 01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:24,800 and thank you all for one two three four 2484 01:56:11,589 --> 01:50:28,400 five six seven eight nine ten eleven 2485 01:56:11,599 --> 01:57:28,229 brandon 2486 01:57:32,229 --> 01:57:30,390 all right something's wrong 2487 01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:32,239 how many do i get there we go that one 2488 01:57:37,350 --> 01:57:34,480 there we go 2489 01:57:39,910 --> 01:57:37,360 all right so this pretty much concludes 2490 01:57:42,709 --> 01:57:39,920 our evening's activities 2491 01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:42,719 uh i wanna michelle michelle and i wanna 2492 01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:45,280 thank all 11 contestants and the other 2493 01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:48,320 60 of that are here that competed in all 2494 01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:50,159 of our competitions 2495 01:57:55,750 --> 01:57:52,080 we have one winner that we named tonight 2496 01:57:57,109 --> 01:57:55,760 that as a prize we are sending them to 2497 01:57:59,750 --> 01:57:57,119 the cheltenham 2498 01:58:02,709 --> 01:57:59,760 science festival this summer to compete 2499 01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:02,719 in the international competition 2500 01:58:09,189 --> 01:58:06,560 and in addition uh the gift from nasa is 2501 01:58:12,550 --> 01:58:09,199 we've invited the winner brendan and a 2502 01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:12,560 guest to join us at jpl in pasadena 2503 01:58:18,310 --> 01:58:14,960 california to witness the landing of the 2504 01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:18,320 msl rover in august 2012. 2505 01:58:25,599 --> 01:58:34,709 and i'll probably see you there 2506 01:58:39,830 --> 01:58:37,990 um so um i was just going to say that we 2507 01:58:43,430 --> 01:58:39,840 haven't uh you don't get the keys to the 2508 01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:43,440 rover but you get to watch it land 2509 01:58:46,149 --> 01:58:44,159 so 2510 01:58:47,750 --> 01:58:46,159 we've selected a single winner but we 2511 01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:47,760 really believe that everybody is a 2512 01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:49,599 winner and you know we say that and we 2513 01:58:53,510 --> 01:58:52,159 honestly believe it we really do we are 2514 01:58:55,669 --> 01:58:53,520 committed to 2515 01:58:56,550 --> 01:58:55,679 utilizing their talents to 2516 01:58:59,109 --> 01:58:56,560 um 2517 01:59:03,109 --> 01:58:59,119 to further communicate our science 2518 01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:03,119 this is the finals for astrobiology 2012 2519 01:59:07,030 --> 01:59:05,119 fame lab but it is actually the 2520 01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:07,040 beginning of what we hope these people 2521 01:59:11,510 --> 01:59:08,719 will do and we hope that there'll be 2522 01:59:13,669 --> 01:59:11,520 continued support for their activities 2523 01:59:15,589 --> 01:59:13,679 so please give them all of you guys 2524 01:59:36,709 --> 01:59:15,599 stand up again give a final round of 2525 01:59:40,709 --> 01:59:38,470 so just a couple more things first of 2526 01:59:43,189 --> 01:59:40,719 all again i want to thank our partners 2527 01:59:47,109 --> 01:59:43,199 the cheltenham science festival 2528 01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:47,119 and the okay blue marbles space science 2529 01:59:52,149 --> 01:59:48,400 institute 2530 01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:52,159 sanjoy 2531 01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:54,000 as well as the host of our uh 2532 01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:56,320 preliminaries so the denver 2533 02:00:00,470 --> 01:59:58,560 museum of natural sciences 2534 02:00:02,390 --> 02:00:00,480 the lunar planetary institute and the 2535 02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:02,400 national geographic so we'd like to 2536 02:00:07,030 --> 02:00:05,040 thank them and some final words to all 2537 02:00:09,910 --> 02:00:07,040 of you out there 2538 02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:09,920 everybody raise their hand 2539 02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:17,510 thank you 2540 02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:20,070 space